Notices
1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks Discuss the Dentsides Ford Truck
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: Moser

yet another steering question

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 26, 2013 | 05:53 PM
  #1  
rottenstock's Avatar
rottenstock
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 210
Likes: 0
From: Springfield
yet another steering question

My 76 highboy is sitting on 35's right now and I don't have any plans on going bigger. I do go off road a little but nothing extreme. Maybe even a little bit of mudding as well.

Would the 78/9 power steering conversion be the best way to go? From what I can tell about this one is the pitman arm sits between the frame and the leaf springs. I don't think I'd really need to worry about the articulation issues.

Is this the same thing as the "saginaw" setup I've seen other post about or is it different?

I'm on a limited budget and the only reason i'm looking into this now because of the drag link issue I had this morning.
 
Reply
Old May 26, 2013 | 05:56 PM
  #2  
montana_highboy's Avatar
montana_highboy
Post Fiend
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 8,261
Likes: 15
From: Big Sky Country
Originally Posted by rottenstock
I'm on a limited budget and the only reason i'm looking into this now because of the drag link issue I had this morning.
What happened?

But to answer your question, yes, the 78/79 steering box is the cheapest/best approach when/if the power assist gives up the ghost.
 
Reply
Old May 26, 2013 | 06:00 PM
  #3  
rottenstock's Avatar
rottenstock
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 210
Likes: 0
From: Springfield
Attachment 293054
Looks like the castle nut backed off the drag link. The cotter pin was sheared completely off. From the looks of it, whoever owned the truck before me, didn't proper care of it.


So to do the swap, I would just need a power steering gear box from a 78/9, the pitman arm and hoses? Or is there more to it?
 
Reply
Old May 26, 2013 | 06:19 PM
  #4  
montana_highboy's Avatar
montana_highboy
Post Fiend
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 8,261
Likes: 15
From: Big Sky Country
That doesn't look to be a failure of the power assist system, it looks to be a simple failure of the tie-rod.

Do you want to just replace it and drive on? or do you still want to dump the whole system?
 
Reply
Old May 26, 2013 | 06:21 PM
  #5  
rottenstock's Avatar
rottenstock
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 210
Likes: 0
From: Springfield
The rod for the ram is actually bent. I thought about trying to straighten it out, but I don't know how well that will work. So i was thinking of dumping the whole "ram assist" thing
 
Reply
Old May 26, 2013 | 06:27 PM
  #6  
montana_highboy's Avatar
montana_highboy
Post Fiend
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 8,261
Likes: 15
From: Big Sky Country
Originally Posted by rottenstock
The rod for the ram is actually bent.
That's no bueno, those things are 250 bucks too (reman'd).

As for the 78/79 box, it's pretty much a direct bolt-in (with slight frame mods), most guys end up using a 2WD box, but i'd try to source a 4WD box if you can, though they're somewhat "rare" and pricey if you can even find one in a junkyard, hence why most end up going with a 2WD box.
 
Reply
Old May 26, 2013 | 06:28 PM
  #7  
rottenstock's Avatar
rottenstock
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 210
Likes: 0
From: Springfield
What the difference between the 2wd and 4wd boxes? Ill call around on Tuesday. It's not gonna hurt the truck driving around without the power steering hooked up right?
 
Reply
Old May 26, 2013 | 10:59 PM
  #8  
rottenstock's Avatar
rottenstock
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 210
Likes: 0
From: Springfield
For the swap, Other then the box and pitman arm, is there anything else I would need for it?
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

This Hennessey Takes the Expedition Tremor's Off-Roading Capability to the Next Level

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

 Brett Foote
story-3

10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

 Brett Foote
story-5

10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
Old May 27, 2013 | 11:07 AM
  #9  
montana_highboy's Avatar
montana_highboy
Post Fiend
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 8,261
Likes: 15
From: Big Sky Country
Originally Posted by rottenstock
What the difference between the 2wd and 4wd boxes?
The 4wd box has 4 mounting bolts, the 2wd box has 3, not a huge matter but the 2wd box's sector shaft is way longer than it needs to be for a 4wd application, and has been known to break with big tires/lift.

The 4wd box is stronger and the one you want, if you can find it, but the 2wd box will work too, here's some more info on the topic...

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/8...-steering.html
 
Reply
Old May 27, 2013 | 11:43 AM
  #10  
rottenstock's Avatar
rottenstock
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 210
Likes: 0
From: Springfield
Yeah. I've read through that post. I'll look around for parts tomorrow
 
Reply
Old May 27, 2013 | 07:10 PM
  #11  
rottenstock's Avatar
rottenstock
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 210
Likes: 0
From: Springfield
would the steering boxfrom a 79 f350 work?
 
Reply
Old May 27, 2013 | 10:45 PM
  #12  
rottenstock's Avatar
rottenstock
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 210
Likes: 0
From: Springfield
Name:  mLJAco2.jpg
Views: 39
Size:  158.0 KB

This is the one i'm looking at. It is from a 79 f350. Has the box and the pitman arm but the drag link (center link?) was cut.

Would this work for what i'm wanting to do?
 
Reply
Old May 27, 2013 | 10:50 PM
  #13  
montana_highboy's Avatar
montana_highboy
Post Fiend
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 8,261
Likes: 15
From: Big Sky Country
It sure will, nice score!

The '79 F350 4x4 is a one year only truck, it's a much better box than the 2wd version.... again nice find.
 
Reply
Old May 28, 2013 | 02:14 PM
  #14  
rottenstock's Avatar
rottenstock
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 210
Likes: 0
From: Springfield
Thanks. Will be picking it up for a cool $100. Then I gotta find a drag link. Is it only the 78/9 drag links that will work? I found a couple used ones for about $40. I'd go new, but I don't have the $90 for it right now.

Also, should I look into rebuilding the steering box before I install it or would that be a waste of time?

***edit***

I had an idea...Instead of having to buy a drag link, why couldn't I just run 2 tie rod ends hooked together via an adjusting sleeve? It would make steering adjustment really easy and it's cheaper....
 
Reply
Old May 29, 2013 | 09:20 AM
  #15  
skidoodave's Avatar
skidoodave
Tuned
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 426
Likes: 1
From: Caledon ON
Do it right!!! Your talking about the steering here, your life and maybe someone else's.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:44 PM.

story-0
This Hennessey Takes the Expedition Tremor's Off-Roading Capability to the Next Level

Slideshow: The VelociRaptor Expedition gains a lift, upgraded suspension, Brembo brakes, and trail-ready equipment while retaining the stock 440-horsepower EcoBoost V6.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-12 11:01:55


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

Slideshow: Top 10 Fords at 2026 Ford Nationals

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 11:10:08


VIEW MORE
story-2
3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

Based on years of owning multiple modern Ford products.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-09 10:53:36


VIEW MORE
story-3
10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

SPONSORED: From muddy boots to rain-soaked cargo, these upgrades address some of the most common frustrations Ford truck owners face every day.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-06-08 18:50:34


VIEW MORE
story-4
Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

Here's everything you need to know about every Ford engine available for the 2026 model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-05 12:58:01


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:58


VIEW MORE
story-7
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-9
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE