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Old May 26, 2013 | 04:31 PM
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Yes, disconnect one, try to crank, re connect, try another. If it cranks, whichever sensor is unplugged is shorting the reference voltage and needs to be replaced.

Or, you can check PCM pin 90 for continuity to ground.
Well I disconnected each of the sensors one by one and tried to start it. There was no change in anything. Does this mean the PCM is bad? What about the IDM? Is there anything I can do to check it?
 
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Old May 26, 2013 | 07:56 PM
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No, all that test did was rule out those sensors as causing the issue. Did you check the tin nut on the IPR? If it is loose it can create a no start.

Aside from that, I'd say that there's a strong possibility that the failed attempt to load the tune could have screwed up the PCM. I've seen no start threads end all sorts of ways, there always something else to check...
 
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Old May 26, 2013 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by jeffreyt
No, all that test did was rule out those sensors as causing the issue. Did you check the tin nut on the IPR? If it is loose it can create a no start.

Aside from that, I'd say that there's a strong possibility that the failed attempt to load the tune could have screwed up the PCM. I've seen no start threads end all sorts of ways, there always something else to check...
I did check the tin nut on the IPR with my fingers. It seemed tight but I will try putting a wrench or socket on it tomorrow. I've learned more about the 7.3 in the last couple of days than I have in the last three years. At least I know where almost every sensor is on the engine now! LOL!

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Old May 26, 2013 | 08:32 PM
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From what I understand, it would be less than hand tight, and you would know when you touched it that it was loose. Could be wrong though, I've not had one get loose yet.
 
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Old May 26, 2013 | 11:28 PM
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I would pull the pcm and clean the connections on the board. then try to clean out the plug connections. re-install and try again. maybe over time it has gotten some corrosion build up in the plug end
 
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Old May 26, 2013 | 11:32 PM
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it seems, it maybe have helped when you pulled it out for a short time.
 
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Old May 27, 2013 | 07:50 AM
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Before you turn a wrench... did the stock program get loaded? No load, no start.
 
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Old May 27, 2013 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by sand_fiend
I would pull the pcm and clean the connections on the board. then try to clean out the plug connections. re-install and try again. maybe over time it has gotten some corrosion build up in the plug end
Yesterday I pulled the PCM back out and cleaned the connections in both the PCM and the plug. I put the PCM back in but it didn't make any difference. Still same issues as before.
 
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Old May 27, 2013 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Tugly
Before you turn a wrench... did the stock program get loaded? No load, no start.
Back in my first post I got the engine to start and run for about 3 minutes. After it shut off when I pressed the accelerator pedal, I was able to check for codes (even though some say my scanner wouldn't be able to pull them and it was showing no codes cause I just had the battery disco'd) and was able to start loading the stock program in the PCM. At about 8% complete, I lost communication with the PCM and loading of the stock program stopped.

The underlying issue here may be that I can't communicate with the PCM. The local Ford service department here said they could try to reprogram the PCM, but I would need to get the truck towed in to their shop. He said they need the whole vehicle and both keys to attempt the reprogram.
 
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Old May 27, 2013 | 01:08 PM
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Check out DP tuner. I think they can reflash your PCM but you have to send it in. Also they sometimes have replacement PCM's or know where to get one.
 
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Old May 27, 2013 | 01:10 PM
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At about 8% complete, I lost communication with the PCM and loading of the stock program stopped.
That's what I thought. All other efforts are an exercise in familiarity until this one issue is resolved. I would yank that VSM out just long enough to get the PCM programmed for stock (if possible). There is another active thread where a member (with no fuel pump signal) would likely be happy to sell is spare PCM... if it's compatible.
 
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Old May 28, 2013 | 02:48 PM
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Check out DP tuner. I think they can reflash your PCM but you have to send it in. Also they sometimes have replacement PCM's or know where to get one.
At this point, I may need to try the reflash. I'll check DP Tuner out. Thanks!
 
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Old May 28, 2013 | 02:49 PM
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That's what I thought. All other efforts are an exercise in familiarity until this one issue is resolved. I would yank that VSM out just long enough to get the PCM programmed for stock (if possible). There is another active thread where a member (with no fuel pump signal) would likely be happy to sell is spare PCM... if it's compatible.

The VSM is pretty hard to get to. Do you think just pulling the fuse would work?
 
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Old May 30, 2013 | 08:36 AM
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Going to buy a PCM I found close by that matches mine. I report what the swap does. Wish me luck...
 
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Old May 30, 2013 | 10:03 AM
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The VSM is pretty hard to get to. Do you think just pulling the fuse would work?
Free and easy - gotta try it.

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Going to buy a PCM I found close by that matches mine. I report what the swap does. Wish me luck...
Please let us know.
 
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