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Old May 8, 2013 | 12:41 AM
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Another crank no start

Ok so here's the story I bought a 2006 f-350 Sunday drove it home no problems Plenty of power ran great no smoke (it was a 200 miles trip) anyway get it home that night go out the next morning crank no start... Hooked up my Mac scanner to it no codes... Spray it with a minor amount of ether (I know it's bad I shouldn't do this) it fired right up and ran as it did when I drive it home no problem. Still no codes fcim is right at 48 volts. Battery voltage is about 12.73 it cranks fast when cranking. After about 5 seconds of cranking no oil pressure is shown on the instrument cluster. previous owner installed New glow plugs .. Now here is the kicker when I shut it off and not rotate the key all the way back then restart it fires right up but if key is removed from the ignition it will not restart any help is appreciated
 
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Old May 8, 2013 | 07:27 AM
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Not sure about the key issue, but IMO you need to get a scan tool so that you can monitor the high pressure oil system and cam/crank and FICM sync.

Is the oil fresh? Does it have a motorcraft oil filter? Does it have an aftermarket security system or remote start?
 
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Old May 8, 2013 | 02:28 PM
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I have the scan the tool I will get some numbers today as far as the remote start and all that no there's no system on it. Which systems should I be looking at as far as collecting data from. Thank you for your reply
 
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Old May 8, 2013 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Jibbles41x
. Battery voltage is about 12.73 it cranks fast when cranking.
Did you take this^^with truck OFF???

IF You took with Truck Off the batterys Look Great infact almost overcharged as 12.68volts is considered Fulley charged





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After about 5 seconds of cranking no oil pressure is shown on the instrument cluster.
Im thinking this is a HINT of the problem

Do as Bismic Says get a gauge to check tthat stuff
 
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Old May 8, 2013 | 04:43 PM
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After hours on this forum based upon my symptoms and reading with scan tools my guess was icp. So went out today unplugged it and the truck fired right up. Thank you all and for a HUGE amount of info on this forum.. And blade35 the batteries were brand new they had 200 miles on them that might of been the issue there.. It was about 14v per my scan tool when running
 
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Old May 8, 2013 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Jibbles41x
After hours on this forum based upon my symptoms and reading with scan tools my guess was icp. So went out today unplugged it and the truck fired right up. Thank you all and for a HUGE amount of info on this forum.. And blade35 the batteries were brand new they had 200 miles on them that might of been the issue there.. It was about 14v per my scan tool when running


Sweet you Likly found the issue

BAD ICP sensor

A Double check would be to look at ICPV Gauge at KOEO it should read 0.18v-0.24v thats the Good Range at Key On Engine Off

Would be a Good Idea to check this^^^ because lets say you had a Low HPO Issue and unplugging the ICP sensor may Trick the PCM just enough to start

Your on the right track though GOOD JOB!!!
 
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Old May 8, 2013 | 06:14 PM
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Ok I will check it tomorrow after work.. Now some more food for thought.. With my diagnosis of the bad icp. Let's say that's not the problem would it start right up and run great? Also once the truck fired up with icp unplugged I shut it off and plugged it back in and no more problems after a small drive around the neighborhood and 5 or so restarts with it plugged in.... Maybe just a intermittent failing sensor or bad connection?
 
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well was ICP connector Oil Soaked ????
 
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Nope not soaked Dry
 
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Old May 8, 2013 | 10:10 PM
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usually bad icp sensor is oil soaked pigtail

post THESE

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0.00psi
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Old May 10, 2013 | 05:35 PM
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icp connector go bad on all years, oil soaking is just one of the issues.
shorting vref at the connector is common
 
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Fcim while cranking was 48.42 and koeo 47.92
 
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Old May 10, 2013 | 05:38 PM
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While cranking icp went up 250 psi
 
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