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Old Apr 30, 2013 | 01:02 PM
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Do I need a new raidiator?

My transmission cooling line is leaking. It leaks where it connects to the radiator. Im not sure how I go about removing the connection from the radiator. It is tough to tell from the rust on the connection weather or not I can use a wrench on it. I have read here that there are cooling lines in this part of the radiator for the transmission. Is it serviceable or do I need a new radiator. I dont want to touch it until I know what I'm looking at.

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This is the bottom of the Radiator
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Old Apr 30, 2013 | 02:56 PM
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snip the line off and buy an aftermarket cooler.. it will mount in front of the radiator or anywhere you want it to really.. get some flexable tranny hose and connect it up.. save the money on the rad and get the aftermarket cooler.... plus it cools better than stock.. doesnt have to complete with the coolant to cool off.. it is its own at that point...
 
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Old Apr 30, 2013 | 03:34 PM
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+1 on that idea.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2013 | 04:00 PM
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There already is an oil-to-air fluid cooler on his truck, the flow is routed through both the in-tank radiator cooler and the OTA cooler. If the in-tank cooler is damaged, then the entire unit has to be replaced. But before you do that then I'd pull the fittings apart and see what's actually leaking. A new radiator is around $240+shipping last I heard.

You need a disconnect tool to remove the lines:
OTC , 307-459 Ford Transmission Cooler Line Disconnect Tool - F-Super Duty 250-550, E-Series, Expedition/Navigator

Edit: I don't know why I read 5.4 as 6.0. Just replace the radiator, add a 6.0L stock cooler and move on.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2013 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by bduece
My transmission cooling line is leaking. It leaks where it connects to the radiator. Im not sure how I go about removing the connection from the radiator. It is tough to tell from the rust on the connection weather or not I can use a wrench on it. I have read here that there are cooling lines in this part of the radiator for the transmission. Is it serviceable or do I need a new radiator. I dont want to touch it until I know what I'm looking at.

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IMO...having the oil to water cooler for the transmission fluid is very useful. It is very effective when towing at slow speeds or in reverse. I would keep that if possible.

You 'might' be able to remove the fitting and replace it but I think the risks outweigh the rewards by a large margin. A radiator shop should be able to replace the lower tank with new fittings but I don't think it will be all that much cheaper than a complete new radiator. Your call though...

Here is a photo of what the cooler looks like inside the tank. This is a 7.3 liter radiator but I presume the others are similar.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2013 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by BigOl04
snip the line off and buy an aftermarket cooler.. it will mount in front of the radiator or anywhere you want it to really.. get some flexable tranny hose and connect it up.. save the money on the rad and get the aftermarket cooler.... plus it cools better than stock.. doesnt have to complete with the coolant to cool off.. it is its own at that point...
There's already an external cooler in front of the radiator, why would you add another one?
 
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Old Apr 30, 2013 | 07:53 PM
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just bypassing things and tossing in coolers is not the best idea. Transmission fluid has an optimal running temperature, and too cold is just as bad as too hot. The cooling system is designed to keep the temperature in this ideal range. The two work in conjunction to do this. This is why whenever adding an external cooler to a system that doesn't have one I like to purchase the thermostatically operated coolers. This way the fluid stays between the magic 175-225 F optimal temperature. For what its worth.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2013 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by PSDlongbox
just bypassing things and tossing in coolers is not the best idea. Transmission fluid has an optimal running temperature, and too cold is just as bad as too hot. The cooling system is designed to keep the temperature in this ideal range. The two work in conjunction to do this. This is why whenever adding an external cooler to a system that doesn't have one I like to purchase the thermostatically operated coolers. This way the fluid stays between the magic 175-225 F optimal temperature. For what its worth.
I've heard that this is a myth.
 
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I've heard that this is a myth.
Not a myth
 
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I appreciate the input gentlemen. I will order a new radiator. I dont think I'm going to have much luck removing that fitting. It is a rusted mess. I will make the attempt once I have a new radiator on hand. I just bought the truck and I'm going through it.
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Originally Posted by Crazy001
There's already an external cooler in front of the radiator, why would you add another one?
Isn't there some really popular mod with the gassers adding the 6.0L OTA cooler into the trans cooling loop? Or is that a 4R100 vs 5R110W thing, and not a diesel vs gasser thing?
 
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Can anyone post a picture of a cooling line connection that isn't rusted? I dont even know if the tool will work.
 
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Originally Posted by texastech_diesel
Isn't there some really popular mod with the gassers adding the 6.0L OTA cooler into the trans cooling loop? Or is that a 4R100 vs 5R110W thing, and not a diesel vs gasser thing?
Yup, my Excursion has a 6.0L cooler that I installed 6 months ago. The stock coolers used with the 4R100 transmissions are far smaller than the one use on the 6.0L trucks, which is why we upgrade them. It's a much more popular mod for 7.3L owners than either gas engine, as they got the smallest OTA cooler for some reason.

 
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Old May 1, 2013 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by bduece
I appreciate the input gentlemen. I will order a new radiator. I dont think I'm going to have much luck removing that fitting. It is a rusted mess. I will make the attempt once I have a new radiator on hand. I just bought the truck and I'm going through it.
Thank you
I went through a similar situation on my 01. My new radiator (bought from a local parts store) DID NOT come with the required fittings/adapters for the trans cooling lines. They were "dealer only items", so check for them when you buy the radiator.
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