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Old Apr 28, 2013 | 02:30 PM
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Front calipers??

Advance auto parts has 2 types of front calipers. One with a steel piston and one with a phenolic piston. What's the difference and which is better?
 
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Old Apr 28, 2013 | 09:33 PM
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Plastic doesn't rust and eventually isn't supposed to "freeze" or hang up. However the caliper body is still cast and rusts eventually causing it to "freeze" or hang up. lol

Phenolic also doesn't allow heat transfer from the pad to the caliper to the fluid keeping it from boiling.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2013 | 10:33 PM
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So phenolic is some space age plastic?
 
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Old Apr 29, 2013 | 06:34 AM
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So which one is better? Just never heard of the phenolic b4.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2013 | 07:28 AM
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So phenolic is some space age plastic?
Kind of, it is a really hard sort of plastic, it acts more like fiberglass if you scrape at it or break it without the actual fibers in it.

They have been using phenolic for years as heat bariers for carburetors and intake manifolds and the like.



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So which one is better? Just never heard of the phenolic b4.

Phenolic is better. But to me it would depend on price, I would rather have the phenolic if the price allows it. But if they want $100 more for a pair of calipers over the steel ones I would probably get the steel ones.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2013 | 07:29 AM
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Had to add: The factory calipers on our excursions have phenolic pistons.
 
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Originally Posted by Snowseeker
Kind of, it is a really hard sort of plastic, it acts more like fiberglass if you scrape at it or break it without the actual fibers in it.

They have been using phenolic for years as heat bariers for carburetors and intake manifolds and the like.






Phenolic is better. But to me it would depend on price, I would rather have the phenolic if the price allows it. But if they want $100 more for a pair of calipers over the steel ones I would probably get the steel ones.
That reminds me of Bakelite which came out even earlier.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2013 | 12:52 PM
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Had to add: The factory calipers on our excursions have phenolic pistons.
I did not know that and they r the same price.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2013 | 05:23 PM
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The benefits to phenolic pistons over steel are primarily less heat transfer to the seal, almost zero warping and expansion under heat, and no rust from water infiltration into the brake fluid.

In every way that I can think of, Phenolic resin makes a better piston for brake calipers.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2013 | 06:26 PM
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The benefits to phenolic pistons over steel are primarily less heat transfer to the seal, almost zero warping and expansion under heat, and no rust from water infiltration into the brake fluid.

In every way that I can think of, Phenolic resin makes a better piston for brake calipers.


They scratch easier, can crack, and get roughed up by the bore and seal over time causing them to stick and/or leak.
 
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I would go wit da cheapest ones.
 
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I would go wit da cheapest ones.
Yes, we know.
 
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Yes, we know.
. They r the same price. Same core and all.
 
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For the X that is known to have brake problems especially with heat and warping rotors (Quiet Stewart ) I would go with the phenolics just simply to battle the heat.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2013 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Snowseeker
For the X that is known to have brake problems especially with heat and warping rotors (Quiet Stewart ) I would go with the phenolics just simply to battle the heat.
Tks. That is what I was thinking also. Gonna knock it out in 2 weeks.
 
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