V10 pulling 20k lb trailer...anyone done it?

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Old 04-18-2013, 08:51 PM
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V10 pulling 20k lb trailer...anyone done it?

I need to pull a Take 3 wedge gooseneck trailer about 5500 miles. I am having a hard time locating a crew cab dually power stroke to pull it. There are several V10 duallies around though. I love the V10, but I'm a bit leary of pulling that much weight with one.

I know the "recommended" max trailer weight is around 14k, but we all know they can handle more if driven carefully and slower.

I can't find anyone who has pulled one of these 3-car trailers with a gas motor of any brand. Anyone out there done it?
 
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What year V10? It would have to be 05 and up for the better tranny and motor HP out of the motor.

You would also need to have at least 4.30 gears to go with it.

I think I would not be doing that for 5500 miles.

Surely there is a diesel somewhere. Maybe widen your search? could you go to seattle and get one?
 
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Old 04-19-2013, 07:44 AM
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I haven't done that much, but been around 15-16k loaded. As Senix said, you will need one of the 3v's. Will it do it-yes. Will you be getting about 3-4mpg's-yes.
 
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Not only that will DOT think you can do it. Plus I would be worried about being able to stop on wet and rainy roads. You guys still seeing ice on roads up there?
 
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I'm not to worried about DOT or customs. Most of that stuff only applies to commercial drivers.

As far as the roads being slick, I will be making the trip in July.

I have done the trip through Canada many times in the winter with V10 motorhomes pulling big trailers. It is a bit sketchy trying to stop sometimes. It seems in a motorhome, the front tires barely touch the ground.
 
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Old 04-26-2013, 09:50 PM
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No experience with a V10, but before I bought my truck from my dad, he had used my '95 460 truck with 3.55 gears to pull almost 20,000 lbs on a few occasions. It was slow, and the fuel gauge needle almost dropped faster than your speedometer needle would rise. Stopping was always an issue, and he never made it over 30-35 mph.

The Super Duty has better brakes, and 4.10 or 4.30 gearing would help, but I think you will want to find a diesel. Better power, better fuel economy, and if you are willing to put on an exhaust brake, your braking power may move from adequate to comfortable with the upgrade axle brakes and additional engine braking.
 
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I have pulled 23,000# + with my 06 v10 (single rear wheel) ( 14 round bails of hay on a 33ft gooseneck). With no wind 65 mph was easy, with 35-40 mph head wind you know you have a tall trailer but it will do it.
The v10 has the same brakes as the diesel?
 
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A diesel would be better for sure on power/torque, but I would not hesitate heading out with a v10. In actuality it is rated to pull more, carry more. Just about the same everything except the motor. The trailer has its own brakes. In theory it is to stop itself with help from the truck. I see people at races most every weekend pulling large car trailers with 3 cars and living quarters. They are using V10's, 460's, 390's, 352's and etc. 5500 miles, once you start, I really don't see much of a problem other than long grades downhill. The diesel would give you a bit of braking. Uphill, the V10 will sing like a songbird, but it will make it. I have no doubt. I had an older 2v V10 on an F53 chassis. Total weight loaded and towing a jeep was over 35K. I did it for 5 years all over the Western United States. Never a problem even with the 4R110 tranny. If you are not worried about the weight police and have confidence that you can handle the idiots that now drive on our roads today, move on and do it. Gas mileage will be disgusting, but even with a diesel, it still will be disgusting, especially with a head wind.
 
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The v10 has a power band that likes revs, so if you go that route, look for a truck with the 4.30 gears. At those weights, you would likely find the typical 3.73 gears disappointing with a v10.
 
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Bump.

Shift1: did you decide on how you're going to transport that trailer? What is your specific destination/route, by the way?
 
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I have a 2012 Georgetown motorhomewith a Ford V10 and its 5 speed auto transmission. It is on a 22,000 lb frame with a wheel hase of 242 inches. Fully loaded I'm around 24,000lb. and I pull a car behing that is about 3,000lbs. I have the HydroMax braking system with the large disks and pads but I still have a lot of weight.
So to answer your question I'm sure the V10 and the transmission can do the trick. The big thing is if your brakes are large enough to stop on a steep downhill? Trailer mode can help but when yout trailer is pushing you it is another storey. Hope no one pulls in front of you suddenly or have to make an emergency stop.
Good luck
 
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