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Old Apr 18, 2013 | 07:49 AM
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biodiesel becoming the norm?

It's been available at the local Exxon's and a Marathon on a secondary pumps for a few years. Yesterday I stopped at Walmart and their main pumps had new B20 stickers on it making it the only diesel they sell.

Glad I upgraded my fuel lines. I wonder if others will even notice or know they need to. The Walmart diesel pumps here are always busy and usually have the lowest prices.
 
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Old Apr 18, 2013 | 10:09 AM
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I was at a shell in sac ca. last week... first time i have seen bio at a dealer... same price but a different payment card...f.w.i.w.... cb
 
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Old Apr 18, 2013 | 10:57 AM
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Lucky you! I wish we could get it more easily out here in the west. Love's truck stops used to have B20 at all their diesel pumps, but they stopped at some point in the last year. I can't even get it anywhere within 300 miles anymore.
 
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Old Apr 18, 2013 | 11:29 AM
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never seen Bio around here, The B20 stuff, is that 100% 20% 2% ?
 
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Old Apr 18, 2013 | 11:49 AM
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We had a bunch of places selling B100 back from 2008-2011. But for the last two years, all those places got rid of their B100 pumps.
 
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Old Apr 18, 2013 | 11:58 AM
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Forgive my ignorance the last time i had a diesel there was only high sulpher goodstuff.
but,,,
Where do i go to study the difference in bio and the ulsd?
Unless someone wants to share thier knowledge.
thanx cb
 
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Old Apr 18, 2013 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by hairyboxnoogle
never seen Bio around here, The B20 stuff, is that 100% 20% 2% ?
B20 is 20% biodiesel, 80% conventional diesel.
 
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Old Apr 18, 2013 | 12:20 PM
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Forgive my ignorance the last time i had a diesel there was only high sulpher goodstuff.
but,,,
Where do i go to study the difference in bio and the ulsd?
Unless someone wants to share thier knowledge.
thanx cb
Sure. If you're up for a little light reading, check out Chevron's paper on the subject.
 
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Old Apr 18, 2013 | 12:48 PM
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it is very hard to find biodiesel here in New Jersey.
i only know of one place that sells it, and they are a bulk manufacturer and do not sell to the public.
 
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Originally Posted by flainn
B20 is 20% biodiesel, 80% conventional diesel.
It's slightly more generic than that:
B5 is up to 5% bio blend
B20 is 6-20% bio blend.

What makes up the biodiesel, I don't know. I suspect it's not the same everywhere, but more state by state. I believe Tennessee is giving tax breaks on B20 and above, not that we see it at the pump. For the most part standard USLD and B-whatever are the same price, $3.72 today.

I just like that it's getting easier to find and the lubricity value for our older engines.
 
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Old Apr 18, 2013 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by iverger
It's slightly more generic than that:
B5 is up to 5% bio blend
B20 is 6-20% bio blend.
Come to think of it, you're right. I had forgotten the weasel-ish way the fuel stations use "Bxx" as a maximum, not a minimum value. That's the opposite of the way homebrewers use it.
 
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4.45 last week in sacremento commiefornia
 
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Old Apr 18, 2013 | 03:03 PM
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Diesel went down to 4.90 a US gallon here in Canada. Was 5.05 a few weeks ago.


It's costing nearly 80$ per tank to fuel up my van.



No biodiesel around here yet.


Any advantages or bad things about it?
 
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Old Apr 18, 2013 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by IDIDieselJohn

Any advantages or bad things about it?
Advantages -- lubricity. Better than any additive.

Disadvantages -- much higher cloud point (important for those of you in the great white north), meaning it forms wax crystals at a much higher temperature than No. 2 or No. 1 petro diesel. This isn't much of an issue until you're running a higher than 20% blend.

And it'll dissolve the 30+ years of crud in your fuel system and plug filters for a while. But you'll have a cleaner system afterward.

Also, it has fewer BTU per gallon, so you might see slightly lower fuel economy. I consider it a good trade off though because your engine will last longer.
 
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Old Apr 18, 2013 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by flainn
Sure. If you're up for a little light reading, check out Chevron's paper on the subject.
Thank you sir.... now I gotta get to the mainframe as verison wont let me view it...
 
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