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Old Apr 10, 2013 | 07:49 PM
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I have a 2006 f250 with 86,000 miles roughly i had new injectors put in at 76,000 miles on it roughly and now have 3 of them not working properly i dont find them to be completly out but to be just under par. I was told its cause they are a high oil pressured injector is that true? If so i have the 10-30 winter oil in it now and am about 500 miles over due an oil change. Im hoping to change oil and fuel filters in it and fixes the issue but there is this product called rev x or something like that for injector issues. Wanted to know a little bit about it. Also wanted to know what the best kind of oil is to run in the 6.0 powerstroke.. Let me know. Thanks!!!
 
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Old Apr 10, 2013 | 08:11 PM
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If you're eating injectors then you'll need to track down why, which is most likely either a failing FICM or low fuel pressure.

Running old dirty oil doesn't help either.

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Old Apr 10, 2013 | 10:24 PM
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You should probably look at running a synthetic 5w40 oil, and you should be using fuel conditioner. Also, changing oil late with these HEUI injectors is not a good thing either. You need to read codes and engine parameters. I don't know what weather you are in, temps you are starting at. Might want to look at glow plugs, glow plug harnesses, FICM voltages and fuel pressure for starters. Like above, fuel pressure issues are hard on injectors, FICM failures can be brought on by poor batteries and alternator issues, causing low voltage which results in damage in the FICM, which drives the injectors. Read up a bit and try and get those codes read off your machine and then maybe we can help a bit more.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2013 | 11:14 PM
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hopefully you have better luck with changing oil and fuel filters but it never helped me out. Generally mine would have something happen to the spool valve on the high pressure oil side that would it let is slide smooth anymore.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2013 | 12:07 PM
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If you are eating fuel injectors, the very first thing to check is FUEL PRESSURE.

There is no sensor onboard to measure fuel pressure, but you can buy an adapter and a little gauge on eBay and measure it yourself.

Or you can do what's necessary to prevent a low fuel pressure condition from ever occurring. Every 6.0 running around WILL eventually develop the following problems that result in low fuel pressure:

* fuel tank delamination, causing gummy paint chips to clog up the pickup screen, requires you to drop the tank and wire-brush it all out with acetone
* fuel filter clogging due to aforementioned gummy paint chips, requires frequent replacement until you drop and clean the tank
* fuel pressure regulator (mounted in fuel bowl) OEM spring weakens, requires replacement with "blue spring" kit
* older fuel pressure regulator design has an o-ring just inside of the spring (the black donut presses against it) that slowly rots away, is fixed with a "blue spring" kit
* the two banjo bolts that join the fuel lines to the cylinder heads have internal check-valves that clog, these bolts need to be drilled out to remove the check-valves (as Ford did with the 6.4)

You absolutely should do all of those things to your 6.0, period.

Unless you own stock in Alliant and are excited about the sale of more replacement injectors.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2013 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by lwems
If you are eating fuel injectors, the very first thing to check is FUEL PRESSURE.

There is no sensor onboard to measure fuel pressure, but you can buy an adapter and a little gauge on eBay and measure it yourself.

Or you can do what's necessary to prevent a low fuel pressure condition from ever occurring. Every 6.0 running around WILL eventually develop the following problems that result in low fuel pressure:

* fuel tank delamination, causing gummy paint chips to clog up the pickup screen, requires you to drop the tank and wire-brush it all out with acetone
* fuel filter clogging due to aforementioned gummy paint chips, requires frequent replacement until you drop and clean the tank
* fuel pressure regulator (mounted in fuel bowl) OEM spring weakens, requires replacement with "blue spring" kit
* older fuel pressure regulator design has an o-ring just inside of the spring (the black donut presses against it) that slowly rots away, is fixed with a "blue spring" kit
* the two banjo bolts that join the fuel lines to the cylinder heads have internal check-valves that clog, these bolts need to be drilled out to remove the check-valves (as Ford did with the 6.4)

You absolutely should do all of those things to your 6.0, period.

Unless you own stock in Alliant and are excited about the sale of more replacement injectors.
I've got a couple of questions on your recommendations:
My understanding is only the F550 on up have metal fuel tanks. We all have plastic ones with no paint inside.

I just did my blue spring and didn't see any o-ring in the fuel pressure regulator around the spring like you describe -- any idea what year they changed that design?

There's a lot of controversy on whether the 6.0 banjos w/ check valves are better or the 6.4 ones w/o check valves. A lot of folks have switched to the 6.4 ones and nobody seems to definitively tell a difference. I hadn't heard of stuck check valves before myself, I thought folks were doing it because they thought the 6.4 ones flowed better. I'm always interested in learning tho...
 
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