stacking chips
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stacking chips
Hi guys i have a ts6 chip on my truck. My buddy recently wrecked his truck he has and edge cts on his truck and said i could have it super cheap. So. My question is can i run both at the same time since the ts6 plugs into the pcm and the edge plugs into the ob2 thing. Thanks for your help
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So what's up with stacking chips? I hear the cummins guys talking about it and know nothing on this subject. Why would you want to stack them or run 2 chips? Wouldn't they build a 1 chip for max performance? 2 chips SHOULD confuse a PCM, right?
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Well there is only 1 port to plug a chip in so it is physically impossible to stack chips on a 7.3L. Some believe you can stack a chip and a programmer though. This is not possible either because the chip will always override the program. With a good custom tune, there is no need for multiple products anyway.
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Well there is only 1 port to plug a chip in so it is physically impossible to stack chips on a 7.3L. Some believe you can stack a chip and a programmer though. This is not possible either because the chip will always override the program. With a good custom tune, there is no need for multiple products anyway.
.......I always kinda wondered but never wanted to try. I feel I get all of what I need from my DP.
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Ok thanks i wasnt sure since there is 2 spots where you could put them. So which would be better? And yes i have egt gauge. How much added power can a ts6 produce?
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A chip is plugged onto the PCM and has the tunes already uploaded to the chip. Switching tunes is like changing the channel on a TV.
Using something like SCT and uploading via the OBD 2 port and you have one custom tune. Wanna switch to a different tune and you have to upload a different tune via the OBD 2 port, which takes a few minutes.
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The same exact amount as ANY available chip or programmer out there these days as far as a stock-ish truck is concerned; about 100 additional at the rear wheels on a 99-03 truck. Don't let anyone tell you any different.
Drivability will be different between all of the different "flavors" out there, but ultimate power output will be about the same.
Drivability will be different between all of the different "flavors" out there, but ultimate power output will be about the same.
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For years (up until recently), Cummins PCM's remained bootlocked and no one had programming for them. So instead, fooler boxes were stacked to create power. You had foolers for timing, foolers for fueling, etc etc etc.
PSD's are different since we long ago were able to actually tune the PCM rather than fool it. Hence with PCM tuning we can adjust all the timing, injection pressures, pulsewidth, etc without the need to compensate by having sensors overridden by some resistors and such.
And with that flexibility of tuning, we can reach the limits of pulsewidth, timing, and injection pressures up to the the capacity of the engine components to maximize power. So adding fooler boxes on top of that does nothing to improve performance. If anything, it can cause a truck to run worse, have an over-touchy throttle, advance timing too far, blow way too much smoke, and so on.
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Well I guess you learn something new everyday. My buddy has a DP and an Edge programmer and he said he could stack them and I just believed him cause hes actually a very good mechanic, but sounds like hes wrong here!! .......I always kinda wondered but never wanted to try. I feel I get all of what I need from my DP.
.......I always kinda wondered but never wanted to try. I feel I get all of what I need from my DP.Any programming written to the PCM via a programmer is automatically overwritten by a chip and becomes null and void. You can have whatever tune you want loaded onto a PCM. As soon as you throw a chip in there, the truck runs whatever tuning is on the chip, not the PCM.
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Well I guess you learn something new everyday. My buddy has a DP and an Edge programmer and he said he could stack them and I just believed him cause hes actually a very good mechanic, but sounds like hes wrong here!! .......I always kinda wondered but never wanted to try. I feel I get all of what I need from my DP.
.......I always kinda wondered but never wanted to try. I feel I get all of what I need from my DP.One good tune can get you the max power your injectors can produce.
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Well I guess you learn something new everyday. My buddy has a DP and an Edge programmer and he said he could stack them and I just believed him cause hes actually a very good mechanic, but sounds like hes wrong here!! .......I always kinda wondered but never wanted to try. I feel I get all of what I need from my DP.
.......I always kinda wondered but never wanted to try. I feel I get all of what I need from my DP.Yes, the tunes you have give you what you need.
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