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Old Mar 30, 2013 | 01:51 PM
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Moog ball joints installation problem

I got my Moog ball joint kit here: Super Duty F250 F350 4x4 Complete Ball Joint Kit 1999 2004

These moog ball joints do not have a removable rubber boot. I've tried pressing them from the end of the threads but it just keeps moving the stud and not pushing straight. I've tried pressing from on top of the rubber on the shoulder like you would press a normal ball joint in and it ruined the rubber boot (hopefully I can get some type of replacement). How in the heck are you supposed to press these things in without removable boots and without ruining the non removable boot?
 
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Old Mar 30, 2013 | 06:13 PM
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if you figure it out let me know.I just ordered the same kit for my 04 f350-ruin the boots and you are doing the job again real soon,
 
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Old Mar 30, 2013 | 10:28 PM
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That's what I figured. I'm hoping I can get some kind of replacement boot for the one I screwed up. If you figure it out let me know.
 
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Old Mar 31, 2013 | 08:44 AM
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Have you contacted moog?
 
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Old Mar 31, 2013 | 09:31 AM
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Do you have a better pic of the joint? I don't remember having troubles with mine.
 
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Old Mar 31, 2013 | 08:23 PM
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I contacted the place i bought them from. I could only find a tech support phone number from moog so I'll call them tomorrow. I'll get a picture of them tomorrow.
 
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Old Mar 31, 2013 | 08:55 PM
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Just did my 99's the boots were separate..As were the ones I did 5 years ago. part no
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Your pic and description is the same part no attached boots...they should come off.....No
 
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Old Mar 31, 2013 | 10:19 PM
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The boots will come off. Did many trucks with same ball joints.
 
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Old Mar 31, 2013 | 11:41 PM
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Did he use the wrong procedure or tools?
It seems like a lot on people have put them on with out any problems what so ever.

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Old Apr 1, 2013 | 11:08 AM
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Well I feel like a big dummy. After looking at them a little more you have to pop the boot off with a screwdriver (it has a metal ring built in to the rubber). You can't just pull them off with your hand like a lot of ball joints. I guess this design is to retain grease better. At first, I was prying on them with a screwdriver and was afraid I was going to break the rubber. Oh well, guess I'm ordering some replacement boots. Live and learn I suppose.
 
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Old Apr 1, 2013 | 11:24 AM
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Funny I have never seen moog install them..
 
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Old Apr 1, 2013 | 12:43 PM
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Well Moog wasn't very helpful to say the least. They basically said they won't sell me just the boots. Any idea on where I can get some boots and not have to buy the whole new ball joint?
 
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Old Apr 1, 2013 | 02:55 PM
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See if you can send them back as damaged and get a replacement.
If you install them as-is they won't last the warrantee.
It an idea.

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Old Apr 1, 2013 | 04:28 PM
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What do you guys think about these?

Energy Suspension Parts - Universal Tie Rod / Ball Joint Dust Boots
 
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Old Apr 1, 2013 | 05:29 PM
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They are a harder plasticy rubber (polyurethane) I honestly think they would crack especially over time. I work with the stuff all the time for motor mounts, sway bars, suspension bushings and all. It is very very common now days for bushing upgrades. However like I mentioned being thin and flexed allot on a ball or tie rod joint I would think it would crack.
 
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