Oil Filter Info
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Oil Filter Info
I just did an oil change on my truck and was interested to see the difference in the "new" Fram filter. For quite some time the Fram has been an approved filter because it appeared to be a repackaged Racor, just as the Motorcraft is. I pulled them both out of the box and this is what I found. Motorcraft on the left. Be careful about this if your paying someone to change your oil.
Here's a closer look.
The Fram is slightly shorter and requires the use of a spacer. here's a picture of the only spacer i could see in the package without opening it up.
Aparently, depending on application one of three spacers may be required.
Looks like were back to Racor or Motorcraft for a correctly fitting filter.
Here's a closer look.
The Fram is slightly shorter and requires the use of a spacer. here's a picture of the only spacer i could see in the package without opening it up.
Aparently, depending on application one of three spacers may be required.
Looks like were back to Racor or Motorcraft for a correctly fitting filter.
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Oh and I broke my oil filter standpipe awhileback
Anyway Style A is what the Ford Dealer Gave me
Style B is what I originaly had as far as I can tell from the Pic (2003MY)
Side by side STyle A the Dimensions was WAY Taller (INCHES TALLER) I bought it and Didnt know if it would work so I played with it some in the Parking lot and it Collapsed down and works Fine
Shure had me Nervous for a Minute there
Anyway Style A is what the Ford Dealer Gave me
Style B is what I originaly had as far as I can tell from the Pic (2003MY)
Side by side STyle A the Dimensions was WAY Taller (INCHES TALLER) I bought it and Didnt know if it would work so I played with it some in the Parking lot and it Collapsed down and works Fine
Shure had me Nervous for a Minute there
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I remember when this was first posted a few months ago. Since then I have still found the Fram "normal grade" filter to be the correct one, and this new 'extra guard' one is the incorrect one.
Up until the news broke about the new Fram filter I don't think I ever saw an 'extra guard' product line for the CH9549. So maybe that is the story now?? ... they decided they needed an additional product grade like they have for the Tough Guard, High Mileage and Ultra lines??
Edit: I did buy two of the correct filters in the old style box at Walmart about 3 -4 weeks ago. They were on the shelf next to the Extra Guard incorrect ones.
Up until the news broke about the new Fram filter I don't think I ever saw an 'extra guard' product line for the CH9549. So maybe that is the story now?? ... they decided they needed an additional product grade like they have for the Tough Guard, High Mileage and Ultra lines??
Edit: I did buy two of the correct filters in the old style box at Walmart about 3 -4 weeks ago. They were on the shelf next to the Extra Guard incorrect ones.
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Ok i have to ask. Why doesnt everyone just buy their filters online...i paid like $19 for a motorcraft filter on dieselfiltersonline.com. Why are people risking buying these fram or other brand filters? I dont get it...
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Maybe so, but these were the only two filters available at Wal-Mart. The element part of the filter looks high quality and there is plenty of it with the zig-zag pattern being so tight. But the need for the adapter makes me think they simply changed the design to avoid paying some type of fee to the patent holder. I will say this filter MAY fit and filter correctly, but it confuses the issue and does a huge disservice with yet another design. Now there's at least two caps, three filters and numerous adapters to confuse the guy at the oil change place, the parts counter, and at home in his own garage.
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Maybe so, but these were the only two filters available at Wal-Mart. The element part of the filter looks high quality and there is plenty of it with the zig-zag pattern being so tight. But the need for the adapter makes me think they simply changed the design to avoid paying some type of fee to the patent holder. I will say this filter MAY fit and filter correctly, but it confuses the issue and does a huge disservice with yet another design. Now there's at least two caps, three filters and numerous adapters to confuse the guy at the oil change place, the parts counter, and at home in his own garage.
I totaly agree with this
I only use MC filter anyway since thats what Walley World Carries for 16-18 bucks NO Worries
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On the other hand if a place has a good sale or rebate, I could see picking up the "wrong" Fram (since they were always thought to be the same as racor or MC)Then again, I've now been caught planning so far in advance and buying sale prices 15w 40 oil, I find that I will be searching for 10w 30 hdeo for the next and probably all future changes on Dan.
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I just bought a few filters the first time because its cheaper if you buy more than one. Only problem with that is i cant afford to buy that much oil at once, and its never on sale when i need to do a change...
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Old on the right, new on the left...
That white plastic piece is for the bypass and adapts the filter top to the standpipe. It is really a "spacer"
My local Walmart still has plenty of the old style. At first they had a bunch of the new, but disappeard for the old style.
Josh
That white plastic piece is for the bypass and adapts the filter top to the standpipe. It is really a "spacer"
My local Walmart still has plenty of the old style. At first they had a bunch of the new, but disappeard for the old style.
Josh
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Dang Josh, Just noticed the filter in your picture on the box looks like the filter I have on the LEFT in my first pic and it came out of the Motorcraft box at the store. Dang, now I'm gonna have to pull it and make sure I have the right thing in my truck. This is stoopid! 
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You have to really look carefully. I have seen both filters in 2 different WM in 2 difference states. I have also seen a guy with a Fram box and Motorcraft box and swap the filters inside. I guess to save a buck and screw the next guy. Again you just have to check. I also did see the difference with the Fram TG filter. DFO has MC for $17.36 as well as Racor for $13.95, as well as a Mann-Filter made by Racor for $7.29 which says it is for the 6.0 but I can NOT attest to proper fit.
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Just changed oil in wife's explorer 5w20, son's titan 5w30, looks like i have a parts department in the garage.
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You have to really look carefully. I have seen both filters in 2 different WM in 2 difference states. I have also seen a guy with a Fram box and Motorcraft box and swap the filters inside. I guess to save a buck and screw the next guy. Again you just have to check. I also did see the difference with the Fram TG filter. DFO has MC for $17.36 as well as Racor for $13.95, as well as a Mann-Filter made by Racor for $7.29 which says it is for the 6.0 but I can NOT attest to proper fit.
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