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Old Mar 21, 2013 | 04:39 PM
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Engine Braking?

So I have not towed anything heavy with the X yet and was curious if the engine braking works in tow mode. On the way back from picking up my THUGish 5 yr old, I took the long way home. There was a hill that is rated at a 7% grade, so as I approach I hit the tow/haul button and let off the throttle and let it coast down the hill.

At first I did not see any change and about half way down the truck downshifts and the tach jumps to 3k and stays there until I reach the bottom. The turbo was spooling, at least it sounded like the turbo, like I have never heard before.

So is this normal? How does the EB work? Is it like a Jake brake on larger trucks?

TIA for any and all responses!
 
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Old Mar 21, 2013 | 06:09 PM
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Normal. Your tow-haul system it trying to slow the vehicle by downshifting the trans.

The system works well.

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Old Mar 21, 2013 | 06:14 PM
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I really like the tow haul on our trucks, makes towing 10k plus lbs a breeze.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2013 | 06:54 PM
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Don't think its engine braking in the sense the
turbo veins close to restrict exhaust.
It is similar to downshifting a manual trans.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2013 | 08:51 PM
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Tow/haul provides engine braking by downshifting the transmission and closing the vanes (not veins - there is no blood in a turbo!) of the turbo to create exhaust backpressure. The engine has to pump against this backpressure. That creates engine braking. It is also exactly how an exhaust brake works.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2013 | 09:18 PM
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When doing that I hear on mine that it gets very quiet. No combustion noise at all.

Mark does the convert lock and the injectors turn off or way down?

Sean
 
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Old Mar 21, 2013 | 09:35 PM
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diesels don't have compression braking like gas engines
 
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Old Mar 21, 2013 | 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Yahiko
When doing that I hear on mine that it gets very quiet. No combustion noise at all.

Mark does the convert lock and the injectors turn off or way down?

Sean
The converter doesn't lock and the injectors are turned off.

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diesels don't have compression braking like gas engines
No, they do not. That is why the turbo vanes close to create backpressure. The engine has to pump against that backpressure, which creates engine braking.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2013 | 11:12 PM
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One of the reasons I bought the ford ,I love this tow haul , I remember driveing my dads 3/4 ton with an 8 horse full, down the salt river canyon in AZ , He was always telling me to( stay off the brakes and use the lower gear), my foot was allways close to the pedal and I couldent wait to get on flat ground,I think ford only has that Option.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2013 | 11:15 PM
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Thanks guys!!! I just wanted to make sure it was working as it should.

I understand the concept and that the VANES closed, but didn't realize it would try to hold a certain RPM for so long..
 
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Old Mar 22, 2013 | 12:49 AM
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I love the tow/haul mode on these trucks! Dropped down a curvy ten mile 7-8% grade coming down the west side of the continental divide pulling a 7k trailer and never touched the brakes once! Fixing to start hauling a 20k gooseneck water trailer and really looking forward to seeing how it works with that!
 
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Old Mar 22, 2013 | 08:40 AM
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great, I hoped Mark would explain ! and he did..
 
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Old Mar 23, 2013 | 04:42 AM
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I only tend to use it in town or on hills, on a flat highway I usually turn it off. I feel like it lowers fuel mileage when not needed. Am I doing my truck a disservice by doing this?
 
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Old Mar 23, 2013 | 07:52 AM
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No, you are not. You can use or not use tow/haul whenever you want.
 
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Old Mar 23, 2013 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Mark Kovalsky
The converter doesn't lock and the injectors are turned off.


No, they do not. That is why the turbo vanes close to create backpressure. The engine has to pump against that backpressure, which creates engine braking.


Jake Brakes are a classification of compression brake.
 
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