Well there is a core charge for the heads. Believe they rebuild the ones that aren't cracked.

 

If I remember right one of the Techs here posted from the service manual allowable warpage and twist was a very small number AND surface machining of the head was not allowed at all.
I understand a official OEM "blessed" repair and what will work may not always be the same thing but wouldn't that = new head?

 

That's the same thing I heard, Rusty. I also read a thread on another Powerstroke forum by a machine shop owner that said they will no longer work on 6.0 heads because of the high failure rate after machining. The valve clearance is very tight.

 

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-6049-arm.html

I posted a similar question a few weeks ago. I know cheezit posted an answer about new and reman in the same boxes, but what I was getting at or looking for confirmation for before I bought mine was: are they even making brand new heads somewhere, anywhere, on this planet anymore.

What my parts guy told me (after he made a lot of phone calls for me) was no.

From now on when you buy a Ford head you will only be getting one that was someone else core in a past life and has been remaned and redistributed. I'm sure there's some quality control they go through.

For pricing the best I could get was my local dealer. They are good to me and I have a relationship with them so your mileage may vary.
They didn't beat Tousley on price, but with shipping factored in they were cheaper. They had the part for me much quicker than Tousley could have shipped it ... and they didn't ask me for the core $$$ .. again because I work with them a lot. Tousley would have had my core money tied up for weeks.

The box comes with the head, bolts and a proper ford gasket.

Keep that cardboard box for your head core. I was told by the shop that did my work that ford may charge me for the box if I didn't return it with my core. It never came to that so I can't confirm.

 

So my question is; Why did the Ford parts guy tell my mechanic, while I was sitting right there listening, they have a new head and it cost $1,250.
We will see on Monday.
I'm also wondering; Is there any integrity left in America?

 

Can someone please tell me, what causes these heads to crack? Where is it that they are prone to crack, does it have something to do with egr? I just don't get why they would crack.

 

well it depends on were the crack is. some cracks ford says are normal.
the reason the ford guy said i5t was a new head... well he should have said it was a reman, the aarm or arm or abrm at the end of the part number means it is

 

The head shop said mine was cracked from the valve to the glow plug. They said they marked it, so I will take pictures and post them on Monday.... if the head doesn't mysteriously disappear...

 

iirc there is a tsb on the valve to glowplug cracks. it said they were of no concern and to reuse the head.
i no longer have acces to the tsb's from ford. perhaps some one has it in a spreed sheet or can post it up... assuming its still valid.

 

It could have been a legitimate mistake. That is what happened to me.

I asked my guy for new heads (I believe the part number ended in -DA I think??). Anyway he looked the part up on his computer and quoted me a price. I said okay, I'll buy it. That was when he found out they don't make the new ones anymore. He ordered it and found the order couldn't be completed even though the code and price was in his system.

He went digging and called me back saying they only have the remans (-ARM I think??) and they were a couple of bucks cheaper than his first quote for a new head.

I don't think he was trying to be dishonest, it was just that the system he has to use failed him on this occassion.

 

Is yours leaking diesel fuel into the coolant? That's what mine is doing, showing up in the degas bottle.

 

This parts guy had it in stock and said it was new. I won't know until Monday. If it is a re-manufactured head, it is going right back to Ford. Besides if it is not acceptable to even surface a head, why is Ford doing it?
If that is the case, I might as well order 2 heads from one of the online sources on the forum... I didn't won't to give any more money to the criminals at Ford anyway.
Just looked at the Sinister site... http://www.mkmcustoms.com/ford602006cylinderheads.aspx
They have a $250 core charge, which tells me it is a re manufactured head...

 

I have no idea. It was blowing coolant out the coolant reservoir. The mechanic said the coolant he drained out was real nasty.

 

rebuild does not always = reserface.
measure the deck hight if its in spec then its not been

 

The mechanic informed me he found another head. He figured out Ford had lied to him about the head being new. I think it was when they asked for a $350 core charge...
Evidently the machine shop, they use, is very good and provides a spec sheet after they get done. I'll post it when I get it. Should give deck height.