Notices
1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks Discuss the Dentsides Ford Truck
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: Moser

C6 transmission issue (still)

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 10, 2013 | 10:57 PM
  #1  
alchemist1's Avatar
alchemist1
Thread Starter
|
Elder User
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 619
Likes: 1
C6 transmission issue (still)

so, replaced the modulator valve - switched over to the single port version, since my 'replacement' motor doesn't have an EGR and didn't need the two vacuum lines. I thought the weird thing it was doing between 2-3 was due to the fault of the modulator, but it is still acting up. Once the transmission warms up, I drive it, it shift normal from 1-2, but going from 2-3, if you're on any throttle at all, the engine revs when trying to go from 2 to 3, then finally gets to 3. There's no clunk or anything. The other way to prevent the 2-3 shift issue is to really punch it (nearly WOT).

So under normal driving conditions, that 2-3 shift just isn't right. Should I try any adjustment on the modulator, or is it time to visit the tranny shop?

Update- I knew something was wrong! There is no kickdown rod on my transmission!! The PO must have taken it off when he changed out to the edelbrock carb. He never thought to put it back on!! Will the rod on my 77 F150 work? Would there be damage to the transmission driving without the rod?
 
Reply
Old Mar 10, 2013 | 11:38 PM
  #2  
410 Highboy's Avatar
410 Highboy
Senior User
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 218
Likes: 0
From: Colorado
Originally Posted by alchemist1
so, replaced the modulator valve - switched over to the single port version, since my 'replacement' motor doesn't have an EGR and didn't need the two vacuum lines. I thought the weird thing it was doing between 2-3 was due to the fault of the modulator, but it is still acting up. Once the transmission warms up, I drive it, it shift normal from 1-2, but going from 2-3, if you're on any throttle at all, the engine revs when trying to go from 2 to 3, then finally gets to 3. There's no clunk or anything. The other way to prevent the 2-3 shift issue is to really punch it (nearly WOT).

So under normal driving conditions, that 2-3 shift just isn't right. Should I try any adjustment on the modulator, or is it time to visit the tranny shop?

Update- I knew something was wrong! There is no kickdown rod on my transmission!! The PO must have taken it off when he changed out to the edelbrock carb. He never thought to put it back on!! Will the rod on my 77 F150 work? Would there be damage to the transmission driving without the rod?
A C-6 is fairly sturdy ,hard to break , although I have broken a couple . There should be parts from edelbrock to make it work . I went through the same issues when I put a Holly on my truck that I had on a manual trans car . The part was $ 15 or 20
 
Reply
Old Mar 11, 2013 | 09:50 AM
  #3  
alchemist1's Avatar
alchemist1
Thread Starter
|
Elder User
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 619
Likes: 1
NumberDummy,
would you know if the kickdown rod is the same for a 74 F-100 and a 77 F-150?
 
Reply
Old Mar 11, 2013 | 10:14 AM
  #4  
mikeo0o0o0's Avatar
mikeo0o0o0
Hotshot
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 14,333
Likes: 247
From: Stanley, VA
Club FTE Gold Member
Originally Posted by alchemist1
NumberDummy,
would you know if the kickdown rod is the same for a 74 F-100 and a 77 F-150?
They're different, whether it "would work" I don't know.
77 F100-350 w/351M-400, D7TZ-7A187-B
73-74 F100-350 w/ 360, 390 2bbl, D3TZ-7A187-D
 
Reply
Old Mar 11, 2013 | 06:31 PM
  #5  
alchemist1's Avatar
alchemist1
Thread Starter
|
Elder User
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 619
Likes: 1
How about for a 4bbl 390?
 
Reply
Old Mar 11, 2013 | 07:47 PM
  #6  
mikeo0o0o0's Avatar
mikeo0o0o0
Hotshot
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 14,333
Likes: 247
From: Stanley, VA
Club FTE Gold Member
Originally Posted by alchemist1
How about for a 4bbl 390?
Again, it's different.
'74 F250-350 w/390 4bbl D4TZ-7A187-C
75-76 are different too.
75-76 F250-350 w/390 4bbl. D5TZ-7A187-C
 
Reply
Old Mar 11, 2013 | 07:53 PM
  #7  
devino246's Avatar
devino246
Post Fiend
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 8,501
Likes: 4
From: Lynchburg, VA
Originally Posted by alchemist1
Update- I knew something was wrong! There is no kickdown rod on my transmission!! The PO must have taken it off when he changed out to the edelbrock carb. He never thought to put it back on!! Will the rod on my 77 F150 work? Would there be damage to the transmission driving without the rod?
Unless the kickdown linkage on the transmission is somehow stuck, the missing rod isn't what's causing your problem. The lack of a rod will only keep the transmission from kicking down when you mash it in third.
 
Reply
Old Mar 11, 2013 | 07:54 PM
  #8  
alchemist1's Avatar
alchemist1
Thread Starter
|
Elder User
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 619
Likes: 1
Wow. Curious about the differences, if any.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-1

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-3

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-4

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-6

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
Old Mar 11, 2013 | 07:57 PM
  #9  
mikeo0o0o0's Avatar
mikeo0o0o0
Hotshot
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 14,333
Likes: 247
From: Stanley, VA
Club FTE Gold Member
Originally Posted by alchemist1
Wow. Curious about the differences, if any.
I would say more than likely the big difference would be length, especially between the 2 & 4 bbl.
 
Reply
Old Mar 11, 2013 | 08:59 PM
  #10  
410 Highboy's Avatar
410 Highboy
Senior User
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 218
Likes: 0
From: Colorado
Originally Posted by mikeo0o0o0
I would say more than likely the big difference would be length, especially between the 2 & 4 bbl.
Are we talking about the tubular rod that is connected to the trams and makes a 90 degree turn towards the carb . I'm am using the stock rod on my 4 bbl Holly on a Preformer RPM High rise manifold .
 
Reply
Old Mar 11, 2013 | 09:33 PM
  #11  
alchemist1's Avatar
alchemist1
Thread Starter
|
Elder User
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 619
Likes: 1
Originally Posted by 410 Highboy
Are we talking about the tubular rod that is connected to the trams and makes a 90 degree turn towards the carb . I'm am using the stock rod on my 4 bbl Holly on a Preformer RPM High rise manifold .
Thanks. Yeah, these aftermarket carbs are usually designed to work with a variety of engine/transmission combos. So I think, as long as the motor/tranny combo came on your truck, it should work. for me, I do have the original C6, but my 390 is off of a Fairlane GT. Same block, but heads and possibly intake a little different. I would say should look at either the 2BBL or 4BBL option for kickdown rod, for the 390.
 
Reply
Old Mar 12, 2013 | 02:33 AM
  #12  
Ken Blythen's Avatar
Ken Blythen
Cargo Master
15 Year Member
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 2,560
Likes: 69
From: New Zealand
Regarding the kickdown - it's not critical to have it operating on a C6 - there is no harm done to the transmission by not having it.

Personally I prefer not to have them hooked up, to avoid brutal WOT downshifts.

The last C6 I had worked perfectly just with the modulator.
 
Reply
Old Mar 12, 2013 | 09:21 AM
  #13  
RWENUTS's Avatar
RWENUTS
Senior User
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 151
Likes: 1
From: Nanaimo BC
Club FTE Silver Member

As for your original question, yes adjust the modulator. I changed out mine and ended up cranking it in a dozen turns to get mine shifting right.
 
Reply
Old Mar 13, 2013 | 12:47 PM
  #14  
V10man's Avatar
V10man
Logistics Pro
25 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Joined: Feb 2000
Posts: 3,955
Likes: 50
From: Mesa
If you don't have the rod or acccess to one I would forget about looking and go with the Lokar cable system. You will still need the kickdown adapter if you have an Edelbrock carb.
 
Reply
Old Mar 14, 2013 | 03:26 PM
  #15  
alchemist1's Avatar
alchemist1
Thread Starter
|
Elder User
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 619
Likes: 1
Originally Posted by V10man
If you don't have the rod or acccess to one I would forget about looking and go with the Lokar cable system. You will still need the kickdown adapter if you have an Edelbrock carb.
Thanks, and that's just about what I'm inclined to do. I looked at the clearance for the factory kickdown rod, and somehow, my 390 is a lot taller than the truck 390. I think both intake and heads are larger. Looking at where that would go, no way would a kickdown rod fit!

I saw the Lokar cable kickdown and it looks nice. Also saw the kickdown adapters from Edelbrock. The Lokar is pricey for what it is, but the only option. did you go with the C6 universal one? Part # KD20C6U.

Everyone's right about the kickdown rod - you don't have to have one, just slap it into the lower gear if you want power. So my 2-3 has some slop in it - might be time for the tranny shop, unless I feel like manually shifting gears all the time, which isn't bad for loosening the tires from the pavement!
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:25 AM.

story-0
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-02 21:45:57


VIEW MORE
story-1
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-30 18:33:59


VIEW MORE
story-2
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-3
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-5
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-6
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-7
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-9
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE