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hey guys,
Trying to fund out why I don't see any oil reading on my dipstick after putting in about 5 quarts.
My thought is that I have a long tube and short stick... wow that sounds bad.
truck is 70 F100 with 300 i6. I was told that several owners ago the engine had been swapped.
He was told the engine was from a SWAT van. no clue if it's true.
# on the current dipstick is 14045832 W
I tried locating it in the MPC but only found the tubes.
I am including pics of the tube hight and where it goes into the block behind the engine mount.
Also the sticker on the valve cover as it is the only clue as to the engines origins.
Trying to fund out why I don't see any oil reading on my dipstick after putting in about 5 quarts.
My thought is that I have a long tube and short stick... wow that sounds bad.
truck is 70 F100 with 300 i6. I was told that several owners ago the engine had been swapped.
He was told the engine was from a SWAT van. no clue if it's true.
# on the current dipstick is 14045832 W
I tried locating it in the MPC but only found the tubes.
I am including pics of the tube hight and where it goes into the block behind the engine mount.
Also the sticker on the valve cover as it is the only clue as to the engines origins.
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Ya, since it's a 1974 engine, it's been swapped. Don't recall those older dipsticks being grey handled(usually they were blue like the engine)? Seems someone replaced it with later version.
NumberDummy might know what that part number goes to?
I did a little googl'n and found this:
From a Chevy website.
went to check my oil today and man was i suprised to see that the bottom of my dipstick was missing!!!!!!!! i dont even know how much is missing...whats left of it extends about 2 inches after the part number.
it's curved at the end right before it's snapped too, almost like somethign grabbed it and yanked the bottom off, what the hell could have done this????? I just put a new motor in...it was a used crate motor out of a van, and when i swapped it i used the old dipstick from my LG4 becase the motor had a long *** filler tube on it when i yanked it from the van. all i can think is that it's wrong for the motor, but i wouldn't see how. the new motor is a 1 piece rear main though, and my LG4 was an 85 2 piece block. the p/n is 14045832 on the old dipstick. any guys w/ a 1 piece main motor please give me the p/n of your dipstick so i know what to get! i wish i had a digital cam to take a pic with, this is weird as hell....
Wonder if that dipstick is from a chevy motor?
NumberDummy might know what that part number goes to?
I did a little googl'n and found this:
From a Chevy website.
went to check my oil today and man was i suprised to see that the bottom of my dipstick was missing!!!!!!!! i dont even know how much is missing...whats left of it extends about 2 inches after the part number.
it's curved at the end right before it's snapped too, almost like somethign grabbed it and yanked the bottom off, what the hell could have done this????? I just put a new motor in...it was a used crate motor out of a van, and when i swapped it i used the old dipstick from my LG4 becase the motor had a long *** filler tube on it when i yanked it from the van. all i can think is that it's wrong for the motor, but i wouldn't see how. the new motor is a 1 piece rear main though, and my LG4 was an 85 2 piece block. the p/n is 14045832 on the old dipstick. any guys w/ a 1 piece main motor please give me the p/n of your dipstick so i know what to get! i wish i had a digital cam to take a pic with, this is weird as hell....
Wonder if that dipstick is from a chevy motor?
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yea, I found that article as well.
I am not sure about the motor swap since it is very easy to snag a valve cover from a scrap yard when in need. That is the only info I have to go by so I included it.
I am not sure about the motor swap since it is very easy to snag a valve cover from a scrap yard when in need. That is the only info I have to go by so I included it.
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Trying to fund out why I don't see any oil reading on my dipstick after putting in about 5 quarts.
1970 F100 with 300 I-6. I was told that several owners ago the engine had been swapped.
Number on the current dipstick is 14045832 W
Not a FoMoCo related number. 1973/74 E100/300 240/300 = Dipstick stamped with ID number: D3UE-6750-BA
1970 F100 with 300 I-6. I was told that several owners ago the engine had been swapped.
Number on the current dipstick is 14045832 W
Not a FoMoCo related number. 1973/74 E100/300 240/300 = Dipstick stamped with ID number: D3UE-6750-BA
So, FoMoCo installed a 50" long dipstick, 49" long tube, so when the hood was opened, the dipstick was easily accessible...located just above the radiator.
Plus, the engine oil fill tube was also a mile long. Adapter fit into valve cover, then short rubber hose to adapter, then to oil fill tube that was also located just above the radiator.
But that's obviously not what's there now and you certainly don't need a looong dipstick/tube.
The thing is, 1969/74 E100/300 I-6's use a different oil pan, dipstick & tube than 1973/79 F100 2WD & 1975/79 F150 2WD I-6's.
But, is the engine really from an Econoline or not? Carb ID tag triangular shaped, bolts to airhorn. Curved base of dizzy has a stamped ID number.
Carb ID tag may be long gone, but dizzy number should be there, post what it is.
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is there an easy way to tell them apart so I can get the correct length dipstick?
Also can I get the dipstick alone or would I have to buy the tube with it?
Thanks for sharing your time and knowledge.
Also can I get the dipstick alone or would I have to buy the tube with it?
Thanks for sharing your time and knowledge.
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Dipstick and the tube were sold separately, but which dipstick and tube will work?
Is the engine from an Econoline or F100? Read the last two lines of post 4, which you may have missed, as I edited them in.
Sticker on valve cover: Is the 300 from a 1974 or only its valve cover? 1965/72 240/300 valve covers leaked like sieves. Ford "fixed it" in 1973.
Is the engine from an Econoline or F100? Read the last two lines of post 4, which you may have missed, as I edited them in.
Sticker on valve cover: Is the 300 from a 1974 or only its valve cover? 1965/72 240/300 valve covers leaked like sieves. Ford "fixed it" in 1973.
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only info I have on the motor is PO was told it was from a SWAT van.
I have no clue if the valve cover was original with the motor or not.
air horn is missing and only thing I can find on the distributor is Motorcraft
when you say air horn, are you referring to the snorkel on the breather?
am I looking in the wrong place?
I have no clue if the valve cover was original with the motor or not.
air horn is missing and only thing I can find on the distributor is Motorcraft
when you say air horn, are you referring to the snorkel on the breather?
am I looking in the wrong place?
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Look on the curved base of the dizzy for its stamped ID number. Air horn top of carb, by now most of the ID tags are long gone, but there may be another stamped on base of carb.
Some people claimed the earth was flat and the moon was made of green cheese. Seller saying engine is from a SWAT Econoline makes about as much sense.
Most sellers haven't a single clue what swapped engines came from, even if they swapped them themselves. Why? Because memories fade and most people don't record the info.
Some people claimed the earth was flat and the moon was made of green cheese. Seller saying engine is from a SWAT Econoline makes about as much sense.
Most sellers haven't a single clue what swapped engines came from, even if they swapped them themselves. Why? Because memories fade and most people don't record the info.
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I understand about not knowing what the engine is from or even if it was truly ever changed out.
It was done before the PO I bought it from got it.
That makes the older trucks with iffy history interesting and sometime aggravating to work on.
I have run out of daylight and am not in a position to pull the distributor tonight to clean and look for the stamped #.
found very little on the carb.
It was done before the PO I bought it from got it.
That makes the older trucks with iffy history interesting and sometime aggravating to work on.
I have run out of daylight and am not in a position to pull the distributor tonight to clean and look for the stamped #.
found very little on the carb.
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If you can't find the right dipstick, find one/universal model that is long enough to read. Change the oil, put 5 qts in the pan, start it. Now shut it off and let it sit for 20 minutes. Now pull dipstick and mark the spot where the oil is at. Now you know.
Now is it 5qt or 6 qt pan? 5 should be fine no matter.
Now is it 5qt or 6 qt pan? 5 should be fine no matter.
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Freightrain - that's what I was thinking at this point.
Marking it with the proper amount of oil in it and trimming any excessive leftovers should do the trick.
That or possibly snagging one from a Pick-a-Part when I go next week to help a friend get parts for his Neon.
I think the main thing is I know for sure I have the incorrect dipstick and can move on to getting a proper one now.
Marking it with the proper amount of oil in it and trimming any excessive leftovers should do the trick.
That or possibly snagging one from a Pick-a-Part when I go next week to help a friend get parts for his Neon.
I think the main thing is I know for sure I have the incorrect dipstick and can move on to getting a proper one now.
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Next time you are in the junkyard, find a 65-79 F series 2wd with a six cylinder, and pull the dipstick and tube out. It should just pull out with some resistance, it's a press fit. It may not be the absolute correct one, but as long as 6qts puts it in the proper range on the stick, it's right enough. A 4x4 or 80 and up or a 75+ van one won't work since the dipstick goes into the pan or into a recess at the rear of the block on 83+ engines.
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Thanks for the info Ford_Six.
I will be heading out next week sometime.
I have not been to the pick-a-part I am going to before so I don't know what they will have.
I just have to hope they are not like the last one and had scrapped all the old metal.
I will be heading out next week sometime.
I have not been to the pick-a-part I am going to before so I don't know what they will have.
I just have to hope they are not like the last one and had scrapped all the old metal.
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I am still trying to find the proper length dipstick or a replacement I can cut to length.
I checked the basic chain stores and their adjustable ones are the same length I have now, 25"
Can anyone tell me the length to look shoot for?
I checked the basic chain stores and their adjustable ones are the same length I have now, 25"
Can anyone tell me the length to look shoot for?
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Put a straightened coat hanger to the bottom of the pan and bring it up 1/4". Mark the top even with the tube and get a dipstick at the junk yard the right length or cut off a longer one.
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