Bottom Hinge Accel Pedal?
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Bottom Hinge Accel Pedal?
Now that I've pulled my heavy fiver about 3k miles, I've run into something I've wondered about. Our top hinged accelerator pedals have quite a swing to them. Driving down the interstate using greatly varying degrees of throttle for uphills, level and downhills, I noticed that I'm constantly re-positioning my foot to remain comfortable (I don't use cruise pulling the trailer).
Has anyone seen a bottom-hinged accelerator pedal like the big trucks use that might either be a somewhat direct replacement, or adapt to, the stock pedal? Am I alone in this?
Has anyone seen a bottom-hinged accelerator pedal like the big trucks use that might either be a somewhat direct replacement, or adapt to, the stock pedal? Am I alone in this?
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Kinda talking to talk here but I would think a bottom hinged pedal would be worse. I drive quite a few different "big rigs" at work and for the most part your foot is to the floor when accelerating and when cruising at highway speed its pretty much to the floor. Which is not the case with our trucks, and when you do have to try to feather the throttle or just be in it a little ways your constantly hold up your foot and causing alot of stress/pain on the front of your leg, shin area.
IDK just my thoughts, I do not think I would like it at all.
IDK just my thoughts, I do not think I would like it at all.
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Kinda talking to talk here but I would think a bottom hinged pedal would be worse. I drive quite a few different "big rigs" at work and for the most part your foot is to the floor when accelerating and when cruising at highway speed its pretty much to the floor. Which is not the case with our trucks, and when you do have to try to feather the throttle or just be in it a little ways your constantly hold up your foot and causing alot of stress/pain on the front of your leg, shin area.
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you could make something like this work.....
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haha actually I have drivin KW and they do suck pretty exactly what Im talking about. Most of the trucks I drive now are actually Internationals (Bucket trucks/digger derriks), which arent that bad as the pedal goes, but still to the floor or close to it most of the time. Im just thinking that if you were to put one on our trucks it would be like the KW's constantly holding up your foot.
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I can sympathize, I too was hesitant to use the cruise....for about 20 minutes of my first trip.
Then I got to thinking.....most modern long haul OTR trucks have cruise....
humm.......
there are safetys built in, if the rear tires start to spin the cruise will disengage, if there is too large a load on the engine the criuise will disengage....
some CAT engines in OTR trucks will make say 550HP on cruise and derate to 350HP when driven from the pedal to pevent abuse by line drivers.......
humm....
Then I turned on my cruise and my OD ( somone on the internet told me not to tow in OD) and lived happily ever after with both feel flat on the floor at 60 MPH tuning 1700 RPM with the knowledge that if crusie control every tried to end my life I could slam it back in to the little box behind the emergency brake with just the quickest brake tap or stab at the button located next to my thumb, and almost 400,000 miles later both my feet are still flat on the floor.
Then I got to thinking.....most modern long haul OTR trucks have cruise....
humm.......
there are safetys built in, if the rear tires start to spin the cruise will disengage, if there is too large a load on the engine the criuise will disengage....
some CAT engines in OTR trucks will make say 550HP on cruise and derate to 350HP when driven from the pedal to pevent abuse by line drivers.......
humm....
Then I turned on my cruise and my OD ( somone on the internet told me not to tow in OD) and lived happily ever after with both feel flat on the floor at 60 MPH tuning 1700 RPM with the knowledge that if crusie control every tried to end my life I could slam it back in to the little box behind the emergency brake with just the quickest brake tap or stab at the button located next to my thumb, and almost 400,000 miles later both my feet are still flat on the floor.
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I use cruise all the time, when towing.
I however prefer to use the pedal in the mountains.
Cruise causes some rough down shifts that I do not like, when trying to hold speed in the mountains.
Just my .02
I however prefer to use the pedal in the mountains.
Cruise causes some rough down shifts that I do not like, when trying to hold speed in the mountains.
Just my .02
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I cruise... but I understand the desire for "tactile feedback" from the truck. By knowing where the throttle is, you instantly know what's going on with the truck and the road. If something goes wrong, you know it "right" quick with your foot. I have gauges that tell me when something is amis, and I do pop out of cruise from time to time to "feel" the road. When you're on the long flat... cruise is far less fatiguing. I had a situation where I couldn't use cruise on a long stretch and my shin still hurts when I think about it to write it.
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Lots of good points and suggestions all around. Maybe I'll break down and use the cruise next trip and see how it goes. Yeah, Tugly, I guess part of it is me wanting to have a little finer control on how it is running.
I tend to add a few MPH near the bottom of a hill to see if the truck can pull it over the next rise without jumping down to 3rd. I've got an email in to Jody at DP asking about our extremely harsh downshifts from OD to 3rd when traveling in the 60's. Haven't heard back on that yet.
I tend to add a few MPH near the bottom of a hill to see if the truck can pull it over the next rise without jumping down to 3rd. I've got an email in to Jody at DP asking about our extremely harsh downshifts from OD to 3rd when traveling in the 60's. Haven't heard back on that yet.
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Malcomb: In the hills, I try to be aware of the RPM, and downshift with the button.
I usually do this before dropping below 1750 rpm, on my 250 with a 3.73 rear
Now with your Dually, you will have to find your sweet spot for the shift.
I have even let up on the accelerator and pushed the button, and then back on the accelerator, much like a 2 speed rear end shift. Jim
I usually do this before dropping below 1750 rpm, on my 250 with a 3.73 rear
Now with your Dually, you will have to find your sweet spot for the shift.
I have even let up on the accelerator and pushed the button, and then back on the accelerator, much like a 2 speed rear end shift. Jim
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I've spent 12 years of my life behind the wheel of a KW & have always hated the fuel pedal on those trucks.
I don't like the bottom hinge design. It makes you pick your foot off the floor to hold pressure on the pedal instead of resting your heel on the mat.
My thoery is that a top hinge requires less articulation of the ankle.
10-12 hrs a day in a KW may have been a contributing factor....my ankle never tires when driving my pickup for the same amount of hrs, & on that note I use the cruise the majority of the time when pulling my camper.
I don't like the bottom hinge design. It makes you pick your foot off the floor to hold pressure on the pedal instead of resting your heel on the mat.
My thoery is that a top hinge requires less articulation of the ankle.
10-12 hrs a day in a KW may have been a contributing factor....my ankle never tires when driving my pickup for the same amount of hrs, & on that note I use the cruise the majority of the time when pulling my camper.
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Actually, Frank, good point. While the pedal has a hinge at the bottom (at the floor), our ankle hinges several inches above the floor. Guess a bottom hinger wouldn't be the panacea I was hoping it would be.
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I tend to add a few MPH near the bottom of a hill to see if the truck can pull it over the next rise without jumping down to 3rd. I've got an email in to Jody at DP asking about our extremely harsh downshifts from OD to 3rd when traveling in the 60's. Haven't heard back on that yet.
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