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Old Mar 4, 2013 | 05:12 PM
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460 air conditioning

I purchased off a local trade site a compressor and an (radiator?) unit, not sure what the refrigerant runs through but one of those from a 75 thinking I might find the extras.

There's a local guy with a 460 in his 79 f150, pretty rust free unit he's selling for $1200, looks solid but it appears primered so no telling what's been hidden.. I can see the air vents on the interior so I know it had air at some point.
http://www.ksl.com/auto/listing/389615?ad_cid=1
What I don't know is if the factory 460's factory air was the same for all the engines or made for that engine.

Basically I was thinking of flipping this truck and stealing the ac innards as far as vents and brackets and trying to transplant it into my truck.

Seems like everyone I talk to with a dent has a 460 in their truck but most of em didn't come with 460's right? So the chances of this having anything useable as far as air goes are pretty slim?

I'll take pics of my existing parts and the inside of his truck and post when I get back. Probably just chasing my tail but if this thing appears to be a good rust free runner it should be a fairly low gamble.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2013 | 06:00 PM
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1973/79 F100/350 & Bronco: Three different types of Ford A/C, all used R-12 freon.

1) Factory installed integral A/C combined with the heater. The A/C controls are located in the same panel as the heater controls.

2) Deluxe dealer installed A/C combined with the heater. Two A/C switches located in HUGE dash bezel that sweeps across the entire right side of the dash, covering up the glovebox.

Separate "hang-on" glovebox bolts to the bottom of the dash.

3) Economy dealer installed A/C not combined with the heater. Two A/C switches located in panel that also contains two A/C registers. Panel fits into dash to the left of the glovebox.
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No 460 came with a manual transmission until 1983 = NONE! And then in F250/350's only. 1979 last year 460 available in F150's, 1976 for F100's.

Seller posted VIN: F15HPDC1380 / F15 = F150 2WD Pickup / H = 351M / P = Twin Cities MN Assembly Plant / DC1380 = 1979.

Seller either clueless, can't tell a 351M from a 460, or failed to disclose the fact that the engine has been swapped.

460: 1968/78 Lincoln/Continental Marks / 1972/76 Thunderbird / 1973/78 misc. Ford/Merc Passenger Cars / 1973/76 F100 / 1973/79 F250/350 / 1975/79 F150 / 1975/97 E250/350 / 1983/97 F250/350.

LDS: By the power of the Holy Ghost (and Ford experience), ye may know the truth of all things!
 
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Old Mar 4, 2013 | 07:57 PM
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[QUOTE=NumberDummy;12910782]1973/79 F100/350 & Bronco: Three different types of Ford A/C, all used R-12 freon.

1) Factory installed integral A/C combined with the heater. The A/C controls are located in the same panel as the heater controls.

Ok, so this interior had one of these.
Now is my assumption correct? Did they use the same vents for both air and heat. I'm guessing yes.







2) Deluxe dealer installed A/C combined with the heater. Two A/C switches located in HUGE dash bezel that sweeps across the entire right side of the dash, covering up the glovebox.

Separate "hang-on" glovebox bolts to the bottom of the dash.

I'll post up pics for deluxe and economy for both interior cab and engine when I see them, if you have these pictures please post them. My guess is this unit does not share vents, seperately goes into the cab?

3) Economy dealer installed A/C not combined with the heater. Two A/C switches located in panel that also contains two A/C registers. Panel fits into dash to the left of the glovebox.
If you have pictures of this, please post.
I'd guess these have different vents too?

Thanks for the response. This truck didn't have any ac parts that I could tell, here's the link to the truck itself though. Looks like a junkyard patch work but the engine definitely had something broken inside, whoever buys this thing would be doing it for the body alone. I got under it and it's not bad, looks like someone undercoated it and the undercoat was coming off but that light bluish paint was under neath it so hard to tell the condition of the bed. Looked good up top.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/7rupccy7ptkmq2f/c80pbyM9e2?m

Just spotted something in the dropbox link, looked like a switch was dangling down that could have been the economy switch. Like I said, I think this truck is pretty mixed on the parts.

Thanks for the response Bill may the magic underwear wearers knock on your door. One more question. Are the compressor units and the refrigerant radiator pretty universal, would guess maybe on the first two but not the option 3?
 
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Old Mar 4, 2013 | 08:33 PM
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^ No A/C of any kind shown in these pics. ^ Heater control panel would be marked A/C or Air Conditioning w/factory A/C. "Cool" does not refer to A/C. No HUGE Deluxe bezel, no Economy A/C panel. Pics show truck only came w/a heater.

Impossible for me to post pics. AK FORD GUY, mikeo0o0o0, jermafenser and etc using 1973/79 Ford Light Truck Parts Catalog on a CD, available from hipoparts.com - scanned from 1979 edition.

I'm using the original catalog on microfiche. Why? Because it's the final 10/88 issue, so it's been updated. I also have 1978/79/81/86 editions on fiche.

Factory A/C/Heater vents same. Factory A/C parts different from dealer A/C parts. Deluxe A/C parts different from Economy A/C parts.

Many of the factory A/C engine mount/drive parts, compressor same as 1973/78 Passenger Cars.

"Refridgerant radiator" = Evaporator core specific to Factory, or Deluxe or Economy A/C. Not the same as Passenger Cars with factory or dealer A/C.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2013 | 08:44 PM
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You're busting out a fiche every time? Very considerate of you, I know the board appreciates it.

Hopefully more people can post some pics and possibly part numbers. There are people who know and those like me who have no clue. I could probably more easily figure it out so if we get some more people posting configurations here maybe it'll make it easier on the next guy who bought a truck without ac who has to have it.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2013 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by SilverTrucker
You're busting out a fiche every time? Very considerate of you, I know the board appreciates it.
It's an adventure every time. Get up from chair, walk around 1900's 8' round 1/4 sawn mission oak table to viewer, stepping over and around 5 Basset Hounds in the process.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2013 | 10:00 PM
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Maybe these pictures will help, they are pictures of my 76 f350 with factory air.




 
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Old Mar 5, 2013 | 08:03 AM
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Much prettier than the pics I had, i'll swap those out with yours if you don't mind me hosting them
 
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Old Mar 5, 2013 | 09:46 AM
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Don't mind at all, Glad it helps
 
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Old Mar 5, 2013 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by SilverTrucker
I can see the air vents on the interior so I know it had air at some point.
Just because it has vents in the dash does not mean it has A/C. It could have the high output heater option which got the vents in the dash.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2013 | 01:27 PM
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Just because it has vents in the dash does not mean it has A/C. It could have the high output heater option which got the vents in the dash.
The dash bezel may have been changed, but wouldn't just below the controls normally have the "high output" emblem?
 
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The dash bezel may have been changed, but wouldn't just below the controls normally have the "high output" emblem?
Yes it should. My old brown and cream Bronco had the dash vents with no A/C. Might of been called the hi-lo option. I'd have to check into it more to confirm but you definitely could get dash vents with no A/C.
 
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Originally Posted by SilverTrucker


As y'all can see in these pics. Plain jane heater only, no high output heater, no A/C of any kind, no Hi/Lo Comfort Vent System.

'Cool' on heater panel doesn't refer to AC.
 
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