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I was under the impression the op was talking about cold soak starts. Or at least that's what I was talking about. I never leave mine running after its warm. Sometimes I will fire it up, get busy n shut it off after its warm. My truck runs n drives 24/7. No parking lot idling,,,, I'm in Santa Rosa NM right now and it's freakin beautiful outside, but there's still a bunch of company drivers out there idling. Makes no sense to me either. They would think twice if they had to foot the bill.
so what i want to know is when you do start it in the morning do u get lite smoke if so how long do u have it i mean 3 degrees and blow like 15 to 25 degrees
I think it goes back to the days of truckers running their trucks 24/7 for weeks on end, including their 8 hour mandatory rest periods. Those guys mostly didn't own their trucks and for sure were not paying the fuel bill. And they got major rebuilds 100K sooner than the guy who turned his truck off while he snoozed, and ran his generator for AC or his Espar heater to keep him and his truck warm.
Brian
Two totally different times in life. Back in the day, very few if any trucks had generators. Like the trucks of today, that do have those applications to utilize.
With out those new toys, try sleeping in a truck with out them at 100*. Or 10* in the winter.
I was under the impression the op was talking about cold soak starts.... Or at least that's what I was talking about. I never leave mine running after its warm. .
I was asking about cold starts, as it has been 10*-20* here in Illinois for awhile now. I was originally asking what was a suggested idle time for the 6.0 as I have read several threads that say the 6.0 shouldn't idle like other diesels. I just didn't understand why the 6.0 was different and how long should i let it warm up on cold mornings.
I did also ask a second question about idling while doing errands, as this is my daily driver. Just curious about letting it cool down and how constant restarts are affecting the motor. I live over 120 miles from the nearest area that has idle laws so that is not a concern.
idle time is less than ideal, however if it is combined with reasonable periods of full speed with a decent load it can be fairly harmless. now if you idle for 10-20-30 minutes then drive 30 minutes of medium city driving you could very likely end up having issues. other than to keep a sleeper warm or cool there wasn't any real reason to idle even the old diesels(beyond difficulty starting) with modern engines and oils, difficulty starting has very nearly been eliminated. using factory spec oil our company 2005/6 duramax trucks fire right up perfectly at -35 without even plugging in and they run perfect as soon as you let go of the key.
It cools down pretty quick. A larger exhaust system will allow it to run a little cooler and therefore it will reach the proper "cool-down" temps earlier than an engine with a stock exhaust.
So many people try to put things like this in a "black-and'white" recipe. Fact is that just use common sense and you should be fine.
As an FYI - I have never let my engine idle more than 10-20 seconds before taking off. I really do not watch the temps either ...... HOWEVER, I do live in S. texas, so I do not see temps below freezing much. I am at 125k miles - no issues (that I am aware of anyway).
I take off slowly and keep it below 2000 rpms as I said earlier. When it is fully up to temps, I drive it as I need to.
As an FYI - I have never let my engine idle more than 10-20 seconds before taking off. I really do not watch the temps either ...... HOWEVER, I do live in S. texas, so I do not see temps below freezing much. I am at 125k miles - no issues (that I am aware of anyway).
I take off slowly and keep it below 2000 rpms as I said earlier. When it is fully up to temps, I drive it as I need to.
So if it was 40 degrees outside, you'd start it up and just drive right away? I don't know why that freaks me out so much but I wouldn't do that to my truck if you paid me (no offense). I don't let mine idle long, usually around 2 minutes before I pull away, but this engine is clattery as hell after a cold start (even with synthetic oil) and the last thing I want to do at that point is hit the accelerator.
I think another reason I like to warm it up a little is because of how gutless it is when cold. I don't have any bad injectors, low FICM voltage, or anything like that and this thing is a dog until 130ish ECT.
No real set time for me. 10 degrees f once it settles down and idles smooth, away I go. Just like Bismic says go easy until temps are up. I used to pull right away but since the PHP and Now she sometimes snorts 2-3 times before she settles downTwo 6.0's 226 k miles all factory headbolts no hg leaks
Just remember to keep the rpms down, im in colorado -15* occaisonally, and at those temps i let my truck idle for maybe 2 minutes, then leave, but thats just first thing in the morning.
Just remember to keep the rpms down, im in colorado -15* occaisonally, and at those temps i let my truck idle for maybe 2 minutes, then leave, but thats just first thing in the morning.
Me too... Under 20 degrees ill let the engine idle until it ramps up to high idle (about 2 minutes) then take off.
When the high idle kicks in,,, it does that cause its NOT warm enough. I like the auto high idle much more than the pto one. Less running hard while its cold. FYI,, the auto idle kicks off automatically at approx 172.
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