Oiling system upgrades and maintenance thread - FINAL
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Wouldn't really recommend trying to do it with the cab on. It is possible, but not easy. If you're going to you need to be extremely careful not to scratch the head gaskets setting the heads back on. I would recommend using an engine hoist to remove and lower the heads if the cab is on still.
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Just wanted to update this.
Diesel Site is currently working on a high pressure oil delivery system for the 04.5 - 07 trucks that is supposed to help feed the system better. I guess we'll see what it does once it comes out. Also, I see they only have an upgraded HPOP for the 03-04 trucks and not one for the 04.5 - 07 trucks so I guess I don't have that option anyways. I'm gonna update the first page with this info as well... or not because I can't edit the post anymore. lol
I guess that's it for now.
Diesel Site is currently working on a high pressure oil delivery system for the 04.5 - 07 trucks that is supposed to help feed the system better. I guess we'll see what it does once it comes out. Also, I see they only have an upgraded HPOP for the 03-04 trucks and not one for the 04.5 - 07 trucks so I guess I don't have that option anyways. I'm gonna update the first page with this info as well... or not because I can't edit the post anymore. lol
I guess that's it for now.
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Just wanted to update this.
Diesel Site is currently working on a high pressure oil delivery system for the 04.5 - 07 trucks that is supposed to help feed the system better. I guess we'll see what it does once it comes out. Also, I see they only have an upgraded HPOP for the 03-04 trucks and not one for the 04.5 - 07 trucks so I guess I don't have that option anyways. I'm gonna update the first page with this info as well... or not because I can't edit the post anymore. lol
I guess that's it for now.
Diesel Site is currently working on a high pressure oil delivery system for the 04.5 - 07 trucks that is supposed to help feed the system better. I guess we'll see what it does once it comes out. Also, I see they only have an upgraded HPOP for the 03-04 trucks and not one for the 04.5 - 07 trucks so I guess I don't have that option anyways. I'm gonna update the first page with this info as well... or not because I can't edit the post anymore. lol
I guess that's it for now.
For the earlier years however, 2003-2004.5, it did make sense for them to offer an upgraded pump. The techs on here report more issues with those years. I needed to replace mine recently (2003) and all the reading of posts I did before my purchase suggested that a Ford replacement HPOP could be a crap shoot. It might get me 200K miles ... but it might get me 20k miles. I didn't want to take that chance so I went with the dieselsite and their 18 month warranty.
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I don't believe from what I've read that the OEM 04.5+ HPO pumps are a problem for stock trucks. I think they are supplying enough oil for anything a stock engine would require. So the new dieselsite pump for those years would be for folks who might be going for greater HP or who just like more toys. And good for those who would like to own one.
For the earlier years however, 2003-2004.5, it did make sense for them to offer an upgraded pump. The techs on here report more issues with those years. I needed to replace mine recently (2003) and all the reading of posts I did before my purchase suggested that a Ford replacement HPOP could be a crap shoot. It might get me 200K miles ... but it might get me 20k miles. I didn't want to take that chance so I went with the dieselsite and their 18 month warranty.
For the earlier years however, 2003-2004.5, it did make sense for them to offer an upgraded pump. The techs on here report more issues with those years. I needed to replace mine recently (2003) and all the reading of posts I did before my purchase suggested that a Ford replacement HPOP could be a crap shoot. It might get me 200K miles ... but it might get me 20k miles. I didn't want to take that chance so I went with the dieselsite and their 18 month warranty.
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I think the Dieselsite was double the price of the Ford one. But I do 35k - 40k miles a year depending on business, with a huge skew towards most of those miles being done summer / fall.
So someone else might figure that 20k miles is a few years of driving so the gamble is worth it. For me I could do that 20K in 7 months and there was no way I wanted to roll that dice and have to go back into the engine again around Thanksgiving. An extra $400 for me was worth the peace of mind.
So someone else might figure that 20k miles is a few years of driving so the gamble is worth it. For me I could do that 20K in 7 months and there was no way I wanted to roll that dice and have to go back into the engine again around Thanksgiving. An extra $400 for me was worth the peace of mind.
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I think the Dieselsite was double the price of the Ford one. But I do 35k - 40k miles a year depending on business, with a huge skew towards most of those miles being done summer / fall.
So someone else might figure that 20k miles is a few years of driving so the gamble is worth it. For me I could do that 20K in 7 months and there was no way I wanted to roll that dice and have to go back into the engine again around Thanksgiving. An extra $400 for me was worth the peace of mind.
So someone else might figure that 20k miles is a few years of driving so the gamble is worth it. For me I could do that 20K in 7 months and there was no way I wanted to roll that dice and have to go back into the engine again around Thanksgiving. An extra $400 for me was worth the peace of mind.
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I think the Dieselsite was double the price of the Ford one. But I do 35k - 40k miles a year depending on business, with a huge skew towards most of those miles being done summer / fall.
So someone else might figure that 20k miles is a few years of driving so the gamble is worth it. For me I could do that 20K in 7 months and there was no way I wanted to roll that dice and have to go back into the engine again around Thanksgiving. An extra $400 for me was worth the peace of mind.
So someone else might figure that 20k miles is a few years of driving so the gamble is worth it. For me I could do that 20K in 7 months and there was no way I wanted to roll that dice and have to go back into the engine again around Thanksgiving. An extra $400 for me was worth the peace of mind.
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Yes, the pump was re-designed and besides the STC fitting on the new style pump it's fairly bulletproof. Diesel Site only makes an upgraded pump for the older style due to the issues it had. You CAN swap to the newer style HPOP but it requires changing quite a few things which is why most people just go with the Diesel Site pump when their 03-04 pump ****s.
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