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Old Feb 1, 2013 | 09:08 AM
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Sporadic Problem... Guidance??

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When running down the road, while getting up to highway speed, the engine starts running really rough and I lose all acceleration power. Sometimes the problem will go away after several miles of running, once it went away immediately after hitting a rough road patch that caused a rough bump to the vehicle. Only been happening since Wednesday night.

Oil is full and not old.

Plans for this afternoon and tomorrow morning (in order), which include running AE while driving around to see what I can discover there...

1- replace ICP sensor (I noticed oil in it a while back and have just been waiting to install the spare)

2- replace both fuel filters (it's about time to do that anyway)

3- check the status/condition of the tin nut on the back of the IPR

4- take the truck out and run it and see if the issue is gone... if not, proceed to step 5, and that is where the question comes in...

5- either pull the VC's and check the harness connections OR replace the IPR with my spare unit OR both.


Thoughts... insights?


Thanks ahead of time.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2013 | 09:23 AM
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I'm leaning towards UVCH or VC gasket issue.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2013 | 09:28 AM
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I can see potential for the IPR valve to be getting a little sticky, but don't really think that's the issue because I never have problems at startup. That's why I was thinking perhaps the tin nut may be loose and letting the coil move around, or perhaps the beginning of a loose connection in the UVHC. However, I don't really see how the valve cover gasket itself could be an issue.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2013 | 09:30 AM
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I'm just thinking that system as a whole. If the connector is loose from the engine harness to the gasket, it may have burnt some of the pins.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2013 | 09:45 AM
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If I get that deep into it this weekend (other measures not correcting the problem), I'll look it over carefully. Thanks.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2013 | 09:53 AM
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Sporadic plus 'fixed itself after a bump' would make a loose UVCH a suspect for me.

At least you don't live where the wind chills are below 0*!!!!!!!
 
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Old Feb 1, 2013 | 10:36 AM
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I'm personally leaning more towards that end as well, but like I mentioned above, I'm going to perform due diligence on the other issues just to be thorough. I've already checked at the house, and I DO have two quarters and a grinder ready for use!
 
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Old Feb 1, 2013 | 08:13 PM
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A loose UVCH will usually throw a CEL Pete. I don't see any mention of that in your post. Do any of the dash lights flash when it acts up? If you think hitting a bump did straighten things out, don't forget the wiggle test. Just grab a hold of any wiring harness you see and wiggle at idle and see if you can make the engine stumble.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2013 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by F250_
I'm personally leaning more towards that end as well, but like I mentioned above, I'm going to perform due diligence on the other issues just to be thorough. I've already checked at the house, and I DO have two quarters and a grinder ready for use!
No need for a grinder...tin snips work fine.
 
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Old Feb 2, 2013 | 05:54 AM
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I have been down this path... [LINK]

How many years and miles on the original UVCH? Unless you want to revisit this in the near future, I say skip the cheap fix and get the harnesses for boths sides. I call this picture "Fifty-cent Fail".

 
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Old Feb 2, 2013 | 10:43 AM
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I'm getting ready to dig into everything right now. The truck almost left me stranded yesterday on the way to the house. Pulling over and restarting several times saw the engine smooth out enough to let me limp home. Funny thing is that the truck seems to run OK at <35 mph, but if I goose it and try to go faster... that's when the struggle begins. I'm going to go ahead and replace the fuel filters first and see how that does, and I'm also going to go ahead and just replace the ICP sensor which is leaking oil much more now than last summer.

The only time I've noticed the engine light is when I ran home yesterday afternoon with the ICP unplugged.
 
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Old Feb 2, 2013 | 05:18 PM
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FIXED... but we were ALL wrong!!

When I started the truck this morning to move it over to the garage to begin working on it, I noticed the absence of a peculiar sound. As I investigated further, I discovered that the Carter fuel pump (located between the pre-pump filter and my stock fuel pump)... was NOT running at all and the stocker was cavitating like crazy!

DVM showed good voltage to the pump, so I swapped it out with a spare and everything is LOVELY!! I also went ahead and changed the pre-pump fuel filter since it was close to time to do so, and I also went ahead and replaced the leaking ICP sensor.

The Carter pump I removed had about 80-90K miles on it, so it lived a decent life.

I'll just do the 50 cent mod whenever I get around to replacing the GP's and checking all my bolt torques under the covers.

Thanks for the inputs.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2013 | 08:13 AM
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Awesome, glad you got it figured out. This should serve as a reminder to everyone not to forget about the add ons and upgrades when troubleshooting.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2013 | 08:52 AM
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sorry I'm late to the party. My first thought was put a fuel guage on it! I fought a similar problem halfway across the US a couple of years ago and it turned out to be low fuel pressure. Glad you got it fixed

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Old Feb 3, 2013 | 09:29 AM
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I discovered that the Carter fuel pump (located between the pre-pump filter and my stock fuel pump)... was NOT running at all and the stocker was cavitating like crazy!
Dual pumps... we can't think of everything that needs to be asked. Nothing beats being there. This reinforces my recent assertion that the fuel pressure gauge grows ever more important as our beasts grow ever more long in the tooth.
 
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