FYI, you are out of touch in the Diesel realm.

I drove a 6.7 for the last 1.5 yrs and 53k miles.

The Ford designed and produced 6.7 will easily prove to be every bit as good as the 7.3 while delivering 150 more hp and 275 more fttq.

All that while meeting the new EPA requirements.


However, this thread is about the Ecoboost.

You have claimed not to "have a crystal ball".

Yet you say no way to 200k. Interesting.

Its hard to have a legitimate dissuasion with a guy who has flip flops every other post.

You obviously have issues with Ford. You don't own a Ecoboost, so what is your point in being here?

 

Well sports fans, I can see that is going nowhere.

But because I'm a relaxed sort of fella, I'm gonna leave this be for a while longer. Lets all play nice and have some fun.

 

Well here we go. I work in a family business that focuses on industrial development and gas and oil so we travel a lot. In our fleet we have 6 fords: 2-f350 2-f250 2-f150 ecoboost. All of our fords we expect 250k and we have gotten it every time with all our fords in the past with one exception 6.0 diesel. Granted that is only 4 yrs in my field but all we have had to do is regular maintenance. Time will tell how the ecoboost perform but my expectations are no different. My 2013 fx4 was purchased 12/7. I just turned 9500 miles. Not so much as a hiccup. 17.9 mpg with mixed driving and a lot of idling. FYI my F250 had 125k when I passed it down. Not one issue and got 19 mpg on the expressway. We've owned a lot of every American truck. Most dependable is ford followed closely by Chevy. Unfortunately in my line of work dodge is a distant third. If you have a cummins it will run forever unfortunately we didn't have luck with the rest of the truck holding up. We live a hard life with them though so for the average guy the dodge may be fine.

 

You are full of it, and I said nobody in here has a crystal ball, so for you to say it's fine shows your own hypocrisy... Or stupidity... I haven't decided. What am I doing here? I've been here for quite a while, so what are you doing here? Do you own an ecoboost?

 

or experience.

As with everyone, its your choice what to believe and what to ignore.

moving on......

 

Before we all really know how the EB will do in terms of trouble free service for 200k+ miles, we will really need to see a bunch of them hit that mileage in real life and then we will know. I will assume that it will be OK but would recommend the 3.7 as a pickup truck commuter engine in a stripper truck to keep down the cost per mile.

In 1978, I had a 60 mile round trip commute to work and bought my first new vehicle. I looked at compact cars, which got maybe 25 mpg, and decided that instead of a $4000 Chevette that got 25 mpg, I would buy a 1978 F100 with a 300 inch six and a 4 speed manual OD transmission--the price was $5000. (This was a historic time when pickup trucks were inexpensive utility vehicles for men and not fat over "contented" (ie profit center) Lincolns with pickup beds.) As a commuter, it got 17-20 mpg, and there was not that much more of an investment up front. In fact, I probably took a smaller depreciation loss on the truck than I would have on the Chevette when I sold it circa 1985. I forget the price of fuel back then but I think it was 50 cents a gallon or something. I was pretty cash poor back then as my ex and I had just bought a house, and the truck was a solid choice.

Now looking at the basic costs of what you are proposing. 200k miles at 20 mpg is 10,000 gallons of gas, which, at $4 per gallon, is gonna cost you $40,000. In addition, if you spend $40k on the truck, I'm guessing that your depreciation after 200k miles is gonna be something like $30k, so your cost for 200k miles over 6 years will be $70,000.

Contrast this to buying a 40 mpg Focus or C-Max for $25k and getting 40 mpg. In this scenario, gas will cost you $20,000, and your depreciation on the vehicle is going to be maybe $20k, with a total cost of $40,000. Plus things like tire and brake replacements on the truck are going to cost you more. If gas goes up to $6 per gallon, the differential in operating cost goes up.

If you absolutely NEED the truck to carry stuff on your commute, you don't have a choice, but do think about the total dollars. I would buy an XL with the 3.7 to minimize the depreciation loss, for example. If you just want the truck to "wear", is it worth $30,000 over the time horizon you are looking at over the smaller car? Or might you do better to save that extra $30,000 for retirement, a house, etc... You clearly need a vehicle you are comfortable in because you are going to be in it for a long time.

Just some thoughts that don't answer your original question but look at the big picture.

Good luck,
George

 

if you live 100 miles from anything and 250 miles from anything that can fix anything what do you choose a 5.0 or turbo motor? non-turbo. the advantage of turbo is so slim i cant figure out why turbo at all

 

This thread became pointless a long time ago when people turned attention toward the loud mouth. I've thought a few times about contributing useful information but refrained because of the arguments that are ongoing. I think most of you would be very interested, and surprised, to know what a "150K mile durability target" means to an engineer. Nobody has picked up on that detail yet and the answer is quite different than what you might think.

 

More name calling huh, tiger? Keyboard thug with nothing to contribute..

 

This thread was doomed from the get go. We have people comparing apples and oranges and people without crystal ***** pulling predictions out of their *****.

 

This was a very good thread but it got personal.

We all owe the OP and apology.

Closed.