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Old Jan 26, 2013 | 11:17 AM
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<p>Today I changed out my thermostat and when i finished installing it i started it up to let her get up to temp to check for leaks and decided to do some amp and volt readings and here is what I found. At cold idle after the glow plugs shut off the amps were at 50, then I turned the headlights,fog lights, heater blower to high and turned on the driver side seat heater on and the amp output jumped to 90 and the battery volts were 13.8 as measured at the battery terminals, well slowly as the truck was getting warmer the alternator output eventually dropped to around 69 amps and the battery voltage was slowly dropping and every now and then I would hear a click and the alternator output would jump from 69 to 72, it did this several times. When I shut all of the accessories off the amps dropped to 50 and the system volts returned to 14. So I'm guessing with all of the accessories running the system demand is somewhere north of 72 amps, which isn't good when the alternator when hot won't put out more than that at idle. I'm not really sure what the point of all this is other than to share what I found with the testing.</p>
 
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Old Jan 26, 2013 | 12:31 PM
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That is why a lot of people say Ford undersized the alt. on the 6.0 and why it has so much voltage problems.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2013 | 01:00 PM
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Go to a parts house/ sears or other small repair place and have them load test it for max output, this is the only "true" test of max amp output.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2013 | 01:16 PM
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I wasn't testing for "max" output, it was more to see what the output was at idle in comparison to system demand.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2013 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by mustang_309
I wasn't testing for "max" output, it was more to see what the output was at idle in comparison to system demand.
Oh ok got ya... I replaced mine with one i amped up
 
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Old Jan 26, 2013 | 06:24 PM
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Ideally the truck should be able to match all load at idle, but the reasoning behind it is that you don't idle all day and driving will make up for the times your idling.
With how much these trucks rely on strong electricals especially the ficm upgrading is nearly a necessity!
 
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Old Jan 26, 2013 | 07:16 PM
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I normally don't idle much but on this last snow storm we had it took me 4 hours to travel 7 miles because the idiots in Utah forget how to drive every winter, and while sitting in this traffic jam that I couldn't get out of my system voltage was in the mid 12's. The only time previously I would see volts that low is while the glow plugs are on and when they shut off it pops back up to high 13's. So it just made me curious what the alternator was doing at idle. This 110 AMP ford alternator is only 6 months old and I don't think its cutting the mustard, so needless to say when funds permit I am gonna get a DC power 185.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2013 | 09:56 PM
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I think just adding an overdrive pulley would help the factory alternator.

It isn't the best solution to the problem, but at least a cheap alternative until funds free up for an aftermarket alternator.

Josh
 
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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 06:55 PM
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I picked up the motorcraft gp720 yesterday at orileys for $21 out the door. I will install it tuesday. I am sure it will help for lots of stop and go driving.
 
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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 08:44 PM
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at idle, with both heated seats on high, heater on high, off road lights and high beams, stereo at normal volume, i am at 105 amps
 
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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by KRDiesel
at idle, with both heated seats on high, heater on high, off road lights and high beams, stereo at normal volume, i am at 105 amps
That's nuts...

But somewhat understandable. A Lincoln Mark VIII electric fan on high speed, for example, alone will draw 90 amps.

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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 09:26 PM
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and stereo will draw 100 amps at full tilt.

glad i have a 145 large case
 
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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by KRDiesel
at idle, with both heated seats on high, heater on high, off road lights and high beams, stereo at normal volume, i am at 105 amps
How long after starting is that?
 
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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 11:06 PM
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warm, after GP cycle
 
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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 11:13 PM
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Right, but how long after cranking was that?

I finally got my hall effect clamp attachment for my Fluke 289. I should log the current draw with my 270amp alternator and try tossing the stock one back on and see what it does...
 
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