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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 06:50 PM
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IDM Issues - Misfire?

Im having a problem (while driving) as what i can only describe as a miss-fire (injector cutting out?) I was told at a shop that it was my IDM, i bought one from Oriley's cause it was 600$ and the one from Ford was 1300$, the truck runs great until the "misfire"

i know that there is a good possibility that the IDM (since its from ORielys and cheap) could still be the issue.

MY worry is spending the 1300# for the Ford IDM and there still being an issue (and the 600$ worked just fine....)

is there something else it could be or a way to test it?

IDM - Injector Driver Module
 
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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 07:08 PM
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If it's doing the exact same thing with 2 different IDM's, then it's probably not your new IDM and likely wasn't the old one either.

When the misfire occurs, is it constant like the injector just quits, or just a slight hiccup every once in a while? Does the CEL come on when the truck does this?
 
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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 07:24 PM
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I have gotten bad a bad IDM or two ,or more ! I have put them in that were worse than the one removed . Have all the tests done , KOEO , KOER , CYL Cont, Buzz test , Memory ect . Some codes set are sure IDM fault . They did diagnose ? Not just guess ? Could be as simple as a Cam sensor . DO NOT get one anywhere but Ford if it is a bad cam sensor . Anyway , make sure it is diagnosed properly.That can save a lot of time , headaches , and money .
 
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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 08:32 PM
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4 idms, new cam sensor (krgan) new battier, its intermedaite i think it is the idm but 1300$ is a lot of money if its not it :/ hate feeling stuck!
 
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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 08:36 PM
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Although I don't believe the IDM is your issue. At least save yourself a considerable amount of money by shopping around for IDM's Clay had them.

Riffraff Diesel: Alliant OEM 7.3L Injector Driver Module IDM

I would inspect the wiring going around the DS shock tower, over the DS valve cover and near the front lift hook on the DS, to ensure there is no chaffing. Beyond that either ohming out the UVCH, or using diagnostic tools to perform BUZZ tests, or look for possible codes.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 09:06 PM
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Where is Mckinleyville? I have a spare idm you can try out if you're not too far away.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 09:11 PM
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Northern California, i guess im wondering why new one wouldnt work. one didnt fire all the cylinders, 2 others onyl 4 of them, this last one works fien (MOST OF THE TIME!) but misses sometimes. is it because the idm now are remanned? if i got one out of a truck that i knew worked shoudnt it work in mine?

also my truck is a PRE 99 (same body as 9-03) different IDMs though, also idm are different for manuals and autos

on that note, the tranny is a 6 speed ( granny, 1-4, ovr driver) that a 6 not a 5 right? granny counts?
 
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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 09:16 PM
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Same IDM for both. The OBS trucks used a 110v version I believe, while the superduties use a 120v, BUT they should work if interchangeably from what I've read. Cali is a little far from me, but if you can find someone who has a truck like ours that will let you try theirs it should rule out the IDM.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 09:38 PM
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different idm for pre99 and 99-03

the part numbers are completly differnt, i used one from a 99-03, the truck ran, but reaked like diesel, they said the idm was wrong and the injectors werent workign right and even though it was running fine, it woudl eventually blow the injectors


unless you meant manual or auto are the same
 
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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 09:49 PM
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Yes, manual and auto are the same. The difference between the pre-99 IDM and the 99-03 IDM is 10v. I have been told that they are interchangeable, but I have no evidence to back that up. My current IDM is running 140v, and there is improved performance.
 
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Originally Posted by JWC 3
They did diagnose ? Not just guess ? Could be as simple as a Cam sensor... ...Anyway , make sure it is diagnosed properly.That can save a lot of time , headaches , and money .
Oh for the love of.... Apparently Brother JWC 3 was not afforded full credence here. I'd like to call out his contribution. Everybody breathe in and breathe out for a moment. If you smoke, light one up (known in Kansas as a "thinkin' stick").

I'd put real dollars on a table, betting the "mechanic" pulled a code and it said IDM. My last IDM code just said IDM fault, and that was the whole message after a momentarty SES light. I conducted a KOEO test with my trusty-dusty AE and a message popped up that will have you all singing the same acronym: "Number 4 injector open low"

BigAlsPSD even cued up the acronym.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2013 | 07:33 AM
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but as i understand it, theres no way to tell if its something else (ex: bad injector) is the issue, unless you know the IDM is 100% good
 
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Old Jan 24, 2013 | 08:29 AM
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FWIW, I've had a few idm failures, and they have always just failed completely. Never have they affected only one or two injectors.
 
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but as i understand it, theres no way to tell if its something else (ex: bad injector) is the issue...
AutoEnginuity, the information in the links in my signature, and a laptop is one way to narrow the field of suspects. UVCH is a notorious culprit for IDM codes being thrown. Two new Under Valve Cover Harnesses and two new Valve Cover gaskets combined is 1/3 the price of the Irish IDM.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2013 | 07:14 PM
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Oh for the love of.... Apparently Brother JWC 3 was not afforded full credence here. I'd like to call out his contribution. Everybody breathe in and breathe out for a moment. If you smoke, light one up (known in Kansas as a "thinkin' stick").

I'd put real dollars on a table, betting the "mechanic" pulled a code and it said IDM. My last IDM code just said IDM fault, and that was the whole message after a momentarty SES light. I conducted a KOEO test with my trusty-dusty AE and a message popped up that will have you all singing the same acronym: "Number 4 injector open low"

BigAlsPSD even cued up the acronym.
Thank you . I do this for a living . I do not know all , as some claim they do . Some are not willing to look for new input . I am open for all sugestions .A good scanner can save a lot of heartache . I just saw someone spend $7500 .00 on a PS because of a bad cam sensor ! 2 from parts store , new IDM ,Head work ,injectors , ect .... FoMoCo cam sensor fixed it . Good diagnostics , good parts , THEY MAKE ALL the difference . My OTC and my MODIS help me , but , open for input .
 
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