No non-ethanol fuel choice here in Dallas area that I can find, and, I don't care for no stinking politician no way. But, I digress.

 

I find it a bit ironic that Iowa wouldn't be on that trend with the ethanol plants cranking it out 24-7. We're probably next.

 

There's a decent article linked in this thread: Ford Flathead V8 .. 1932 thru 1953 • View topic - An updated explanation regarding Ethanol

I totally agree with you Fatfenders about weaning off of Middle Eastern juice. There are ways to make gas and diesel from coal and from crappy green stuff like switchgrass (maybe kudzu?! one can only hope) that should be more agressively pursued. But it is a political and economical problem more than a technical one. Don't look for any politicians to solve either aspect.

 

I have been using Lucas Oil Products fuel stabilizer in my '54. Should I start using it in my '70 F350 with a 360?

 

Abe, for an overwhelming majority of automotive additives, the two main ingredients are snake oil and fairy dust. What is the fuel stabilizer supposed to do for you, and why are you using it for your situation? If it is because of low use you are probably wise to use it, or a similar stabilzer. There are good and necessary additives for certain situations.

Some of the products that are documented independently as sound products are... fuel stablizer such as Stabil (or your Lucas product if that is what it is) for fuel that is not going to be burned quick enough. ZDDP if you require it for your engine. Lubricant and anticorrosives for high concentrations of alcohol fuel usage, lead replacements for unhardened valve seats etc. there are probably others.

IMO, most of the products out there are either downright fraudulent, unnecessary for almost anyone, or so diluted in real ingredients they have minimal value for the money you spend. My favorites (Not), are the ones that cure a worn out engine, restore its power etc. Most of the low priced fuel cleaners are also a joke IMO.

 

Many of them contain alcohol!

 

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For all the people whining and complaining about ethanol. It's not that hard to replace fuel lines and O-rings. Especially on the classic vehicles. A lot of us are restoring our fuel systems or starting from scratch on them anyways. So just use alcohol compatible parts.

E10 has been around here for a while. And there aren't thousands of cars sitting on the side of the road with ethanol related fuel system problems.

I've owned a lot of high mileage older vehicles. I've had my share of fuel issues but most of them have been rusted thru hard lines. And that sure isn't from ethanol being in the gas!!



I'm building my 54 to run E85. And it's going to be my daily driver when it's finished.

 

I haven't been able to find E free gas here for over a year now unless I buy super high dollar off road use only racing gas. I also have not seen an E85 pump, but I honestly haven't really looked. The E10 has noticably reduced the power in the Solstice and cut the mileage by about 12%.

 

I have only seen one E85 Station in NC and that was in Shelby, NC(couple of years ago). Not sure if it is still E85 or not. The price was only about .30 per gallon cheaper than regular fuel.

 

According to google there are 24 stations in 20 cities selling E85 in NC.

 

There is an excellent website that I use to find ethanol free gas. The web address is as follows:

Ethanol-free gas stations in the U.S. and Canada

If you have a smart phone, pure-gas has an app that can be downloaded for free which I use when I travel. Last May, I drove my F100 to Pigeon Forge for the F100 Supernats. I averaged much better fuel economy using ethanol free fuel.

It appears that you have a couple stations around Morrisvile, NC that offers e-free fuel. I realize that might be out of the way, but might be worth the trip before you put your Effie up for the winter.

 

Thanks for the link. I checked in my state of Maine. There are a total of six locations, all either airports or marinas! The ethanol is like a death sentence for larger outboard motors. I have also read that the bringing ethanol to market is most likely energy negative.

 

I think oil recovery in the Bakken right now is 15%. As technology improves that figure, the experts believe ND could surpass Saudi Arabia in output. That's if hydraulic fracturing is not made illegal. Funny, I remember being little and hearing scientists saying we only( in the 70s) had enough oil to last into 2000-something.

 

morning Ted, be careful, you sound a little too much like me lol. What you said is true for many type vehicles, but certainly not all. Classic cars and boaters are not ruining the world IMO and hobbiests should have a source for fuel that won't destroy their motor. If I have to pay a little extra, or be a little inconvenienced for the greater good I am OK with that. No ability to operate my boat (or whatever)without destroying it is another matter. I don't think you can throw 100 bucks in mods at a 300HP boat motor and all is good?

I have known about energy loss from alcohol vs gas for decades, so my toys have a tuning capability, or at least built with compatible parts to avoid destruction. I actually make more power with ethanol because I run higher compression, more spark advance etc. The rest of the country will do likewise if they are forced to, as it appears to be the case. If what I am reading here is correct, something is very wrong though . Government Motors won't warranty widely mandated fuel? They can manufacture a car to run on 85% ethanol, but not for 15%? Somebody explain how that could possibly happen?