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Old Jan 12, 2013 | 02:49 PM
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Hey guys. Go the dreaded check engine light today. ran the scanner and got the codes below. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

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P1151 Lack of HO2S21 switches- Sensor indicates lean

P1131 Lack of HO2S11 switches- Sensor indicates lean
 
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Old Jan 12, 2013 | 03:06 PM
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If the engine is showing both banks lean, could be clogged fuel filter, bad FPR, wiring fault, or simply both O2 sensors are due for replacement. When were they replaced, # of miles since replacement? I have also seen this with contaminated fuel / E85.

Edit: A bad fuel pump has also known to cause this as it cannot keep fuel pressure steady.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2013 | 05:46 PM
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O2 sensors (3) were replaced less than 5000 miles back(Bosch). Fuel filter less than 10000 . 330,000 miles on the truck.

Guess I will check fuel pressure next.

Thanks for the information!
 
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Old Jan 12, 2013 | 05:48 PM
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Btw, it's a '96 OBD2 with the 4.9 with all emissions still intact.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2013 | 06:04 PM
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I didn't note that a vacuum hose leak could also trip a Lean condition as well as an intake or throttle body leak. Also vacuum canister leak.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2013 | 06:10 PM
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Thanks! I'll check for a vacuum leak as well.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2013 | 04:40 PM
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Would a bad temp sensor contribute? My temp gauge is staying way down even when driving on the highway, so I know I need a new one. Maybe I'll replace it while I am checking fuel pressure.
 
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Yes, I could see a bad ECT sensor causing the havoc. I didn't think of that, but with OBDII, I would think it would show up in a stored code.
 
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The Engine Coolant Temperature (ECT) sensor is not the same as the dash gauge sender. Two different parts with two different functions.
 
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Yeah, dash gauge is on a representation of temp. The ECT is part of engine management.
 
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