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Old Jan 1, 2013 | 05:11 PM
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It Has been a little colder than normal. It got down to 35/39 for a couple of nights. The other day I started my truck and it starts fine. medium idle like always. I walk out to the street and a whooshing sound start's out of the exhaust.

I tapped the peddle as it has done this before and it's gone. truck is running for about 4 or 5 minutes when the whooshing starts and i tap the peddle.

Ok now as i walk out to my trailer less than a couple of minutes, my truck idle's up. It has never done this before the whole 6 years i have owned it. Even when i stay at my sisters house where it had snowed over night.

I had shut it off and restarted it, starts fine and as i walk away it idles up again. I don't have a high idle on my DP. It Has not done it sense ?

Is this a normal thing in colder weather ?

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Old Jan 1, 2013 | 05:14 PM
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Yes. Dont quote me but I believe when the PCM reads oil temp a certain temp along with air intake temp being within a certain range, it will automatically high idle. Same thing as a high idle tune, only its automatic. PCM returns it to normal idle speed as soon as the break gas or clutch is touched.
 
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Old Jan 1, 2013 | 05:17 PM
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looks like your truck started acting normal after six years.thats supposed to be normal,mine does it,you can delete it if you fill that you dont need the aid in warming up.
 
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Old Jan 1, 2013 | 05:38 PM
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...you can delete it if you fill that you dont need the aid in warming up.
He's referring to the Exhaust Back Pressure Valve (whooshing sound). Yes, it is normal for the EBPV to close (making a hisss) and a few seconds later, the idle will climb on its own. This does really help with warmup. After the temp reaches a certain point, the hiss will not be there.
 
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Old Jan 1, 2013 | 07:53 PM
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Such a great place to read things at..... Same thing going on with mine and being my first diesel, I was concerned. Was going to post a question about that exhaust noise. First time I heard if....I thought the thing was going to launch into space. lollol

Does this only happen when the outside weather is cold or is it normal at any outside temp if the engine is cold?
 
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Old Jan 1, 2013 | 08:20 PM
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Completely normal...

The EBPV is activated when ambient air temperature is below 7°C (45°F) and engine oil temperature is below 75°C (167°F) during low load. At high load, high speed conditions, the back pressure system is disabled.

The higher idle is normal too.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2013 | 12:30 AM
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I have same prob. But I get it when I'm driven down the road also. If I just keep a steady speed it makes the hissing sound out the exhaust. But if I let off or increase the gas it goes away. What would that be
 
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Old Jan 13, 2013 | 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Noisyboy
I have same prob. But I get it when I'm driven down the road also. If I just keep a steady speed it makes the hissing sound out the exhaust. But if I let off or increase the gas it goes away. What would that be
Same thing. Should go away once the engine warms up a bit.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2013 | 02:16 AM
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Yes it dose go away eventually but I have to drive it for about a half hr.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2013 | 03:04 AM
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Greg, I was going to ask you about the EBPV on our F450's.... My Excursion you can hear it close, it does it all the time when it is cold out and it is first started.
I fired off my F450 Friday morning, there was ice on the windshield and I never heard the EBPV close.... it doesn't matter whether the park brake is off or on, the only time I have heard it was when we ran your AE on it... so I know it works.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2013 | 05:43 AM
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Yes it dose go away eventually but I have to drive it for about a half hr.
You can start by cleaning your EBP sensor and tube. Be careful, removing either of these can damage them if you don't use two wrenches to counter the torque.

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I fired off my F450 Friday morning, there was ice on the windshield and I never heard the EBPV close.... it doesn't matter whether the park brake is off or on, the only time I have heard it was when we ran your AE on it... so I know it works.
Opposite sides of the same problem. As I read and understand this, the EBPV can be effected by the Air Intake Temperature, the Engine Oil Temperature, the Exhaust Back Pressure Sensor, the functionality of the Exhaust Back Pressure Valve, or the tune.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2013 | 06:14 AM
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You can start by cleaning your EBP sensor and tube. Be careful, removing either of these can damage them if you don't use two wrenches to counter the torque.



Opposite sides of the same problem. As I read and understand this, the EBPV can be effected by the Air Intake Temperature, the Engine Oil Temperature, the Exhaust Back Pressure Sensor, the functionality of the Exhaust Back Pressure Valve, or the tune.
I was just wondering if it was some different factory programming for the heavier trucks was all, both the X and f450 fire right off when it is cold out side after letting the GP's cycle, I know it is not "cold" here compared to some other places, but I was expecting it to come on when it was around 35 outside Friday morning. It took around 10 minutes to get any heat out of the vents, I know because I drove my son to the bus stop on my way to work and sat with him in the truck till it came. He said my truck seat was colder then being outside .
 
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Old Jan 13, 2013 | 06:59 AM
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I was just wondering if it was some different factory programming for the heavier trucks was all.
I've had a number of tunes and the EBPV behaved differently on some of them. You should hear a 38R with the EBPV full on... it hisses "Look at me!"
 
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Old Jan 13, 2013 | 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Tugly
I've had a number of tunes and the EBPV behaved differently on some of them. You should here a 38R with the EBPV full on... it hisses "Look at me!"
Hmm that makes me wonder if i took the Superchips cortex back to stock if it makes a difference... I will have to pay attention to if the X closes the valve this morning since I chipped with an old 1705 programmer Friday.

update....
It was 30* this morning, the X closed the EBPV after about 60 seconds of idle time and then went into High idle... around 1000rpms. Guess the Superchips didn't do anything to that...
 
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Old Jan 13, 2013 | 10:58 AM
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[QUOTE=Tugly;12707411][FONT=Georgia]You can start by cleaning your EBP sensor and tube. Be careful, removing either of these can damage them if you don't use two wrenches to counter the torque.

Ok thanks for the advice. Ill start by doin that an see what happens. Anything that I should look for while I'm in there or just clean it?
 
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