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new roadbump, won't start. I changed the plugs today with motorcrafts. I tried to start the truck and the relay made a loud buzzing sound and stayed on, eventually smoking before I turned it off. I replaced the relay with a ford stater relay, and the light comes on the dash, but the truck will not start. I crank it but no dice, not even a stutter. I have diesel vapor in the exhaust, so I know I'm getting fuel. the new relay could be bad? I can't be in two places at once to test it. the new relay makes no noise, whatsoever. I crank it till the oil on the starter starts to smoke, no dice. checked the fuses and all are good. I'm lost. advice??? I tried to pm some folks but their mailboxes are full I want to see if someone will talk me through this, it's faster that way.
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also, I had an issue with the throttle position sensor coming apart. I should mention that, when I was replacing the glow plugs and moving the wiring harness the tps came apart, the two pieces that glue together separated from one another. I just plugged it back in, don't know if that is part of the problem or not.
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I'm getting fuel, lots of fuel vapor is present in the exhaust.
I pulled the controller, tested black wire to the two studs that connect to the bottom of the relay, no cont. between the black wire and studs, bad right? the black wire is gnd, and connected from the controller to mounting plate via a bolt, which in tern is connected to the block and the truck. tell me if I'm wrong here. I believe that there is a short inside the controller.
I pulled the controller, tested black wire to the two studs that connect to the bottom of the relay, no cont. between the black wire and studs, bad right? the black wire is gnd, and connected from the controller to mounting plate via a bolt, which in tern is connected to the block and the truck. tell me if I'm wrong here. I believe that there is a short inside the controller.
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From: Mi'kma'ki
you can get 'em to fire up with just running a blow dryer down her intake for a few mins.
testing gp system '87-94:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...low-plugs.html
you'll have to replace the tps most likely asap.you don't want e40d issues if you can help it;
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...ions-only.html
testing gp system '87-94:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...low-plugs.html
you'll have to replace the tps most likely asap.you don't want e40d issues if you can help it;
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...ions-only.html
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by myself, don't have a buddy, not limited by tools have a shops worth with me minus specialty tools. how do i just bench test the controller? a call will work, but I need to pm my number. its -5 already here, with a nice wind chill, trying to stay indoors if i can, and get to autozone and order a new controller before they close at 9. five min down the road.
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A starter relay is wired internally different from the standard glow plug relay. With the standard GPR, one of the small terminals has a red wire that 12v any time the key is turned to run or start. The other small terminal has a white wire from the controller. The controller connects that white wire to ground when the controller wants to energize the plugs.
On a starter relay, the ground is the mounting tabs, so the white wire has to be connected to one of the relay mounting screws. If the starter relay has 2 small terminals, the red wire connects to the "S" terminal.
On a starter relay, the ground is the mounting tabs, so the white wire has to be connected to one of the relay mounting screws. If the starter relay has 2 small terminals, the red wire connects to the "S" terminal.
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A starter relay is wired internally different from the standard glow plug relay. With the standard GPR, one of the small terminals has a red wire that 12v any time the key is turned to run or start. The other small terminal has a white wire from the controller. The controller connects that white wire to ground when the controller wants to energize the plugs.
On a starter relay, the ground is the mounting tabs, so the white wire has to be connected to one of the relay mounting screws. If the starter relay has 2 small terminals, the red wire connects to the "S" terminal.
On a starter relay, the ground is the mounting tabs, so the white wire has to be connected to one of the relay mounting screws. If the starter relay has 2 small terminals, the red wire connects to the "S" terminal.
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If you want to be sure it's just the GP controller that's not functioning, just take a big screwdriver and short out the large terminals on the relay for ~5-6 seconds or so. It should start then.
