Notices
1948 - 1956 F1, F100 & Larger F-Series Trucks Discuss the Fat Fendered and Classic Ford Trucks

Widow-makers

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 18, 2012 | 07:53 AM
  #1  
MarkG.'s Avatar
MarkG.
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
From: Sussex county, NJ
Widow-makers

What is the best way to remove fully-inflated tire from widow-maker rims?(besides very carfully and the way that it dosnt kill you.)
 
Reply
Old Dec 18, 2012 | 07:55 AM
  #2  
JimG1098's Avatar
JimG1098
Fleet Mechanic
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,847
Likes: 37
From: Eastern shore,Salisbur,MD
let a professional do it in a cage. Would not touch them at all, personally They will KILL you

JimG
 
Reply
Old Dec 18, 2012 | 07:55 AM
  #3  
49f3dls's Avatar
49f3dls
Posting Guru
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 2,203
Likes: 4
From: Southern SC.
have someone you don't like do it
 
Reply
Old Dec 18, 2012 | 07:56 AM
  #4  
thomabb's Avatar
thomabb
Cargo Master
15 Year Member
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 2,405
Likes: 4
I think I am misunderstanding your question. Do you want to unmount the tire from the rim or get the wheel off the truck?

Either way I think you should deflate the tire first, especially if the rim is rusty or you don't know the history.
 
Reply
Old Dec 18, 2012 | 07:57 AM
  #5  
49f3dls's Avatar
49f3dls
Posting Guru
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 2,203
Likes: 4
From: Southern SC.
Jim is right it is nothing to take lightly
 
Reply
Old Dec 18, 2012 | 08:08 AM
  #6  
The Horvaths's Avatar
The Horvaths
Posting Guru
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 1,314
Likes: 0
Secure chains around it. Remove valve core. Get away.
Come back when it's done equilibrated.

Many valve caps have a soft rubber cover over a brass core removal tool.
My older son and I just broke six tires off the rims safely. We now run AWS's lock ring wheels and new rubber.
 
Reply
Old Dec 18, 2012 | 08:11 AM
  #7  
The Horvaths's Avatar
The Horvaths
Posting Guru
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 1,314
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by MarkG.
What is the best way to remove fully-inflated tire from widow-maker rims?(besides very carfully and the way that it dosnt kill you.)
BTW: deflate prior to -any- attempt to remove from rims.
Many folks prefer to deflate prior to removal from axles.
 
Reply
Old Dec 18, 2012 | 08:15 AM
  #8  
MarkG.'s Avatar
MarkG.
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
From: Sussex county, NJ
I want to remove the rims off the truck and the tires off the rims. (And Im not taking it lightley. I guess its just a poor attempt at humor.)
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-3

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-4

10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

 Brett Foote
story-6

5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

 Joe Kucinski
story-7

Ford Super Duty: 5 Things Owners LOVE, 5 Things They LOATHE!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

Every 2026 Ford Truck Engine RANKED from WORST to FIRST!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-9

The Best F-150 Deal of Every Trim Level (XL through Raptor)

 Joe Kucinski
Old Dec 18, 2012 | 08:25 AM
  #9  
truckdog62563's Avatar
truckdog62563
Marmon-Herrington Man
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Liked
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 11,984
Likes: 444
From: Central Illinois
Club FTE Gold Member
Ditto all that's been said. Let air out while they are still mounted on the truck. I would add that standing off to one side, out of line of fire of a rear dual, is most critical. While fronts and inner duals will blow in, you could still get injured by an old dead tire if it comes apart in the process. So I'd say pull the valve cores one by one and get outta the way. Stu
 
Reply
Old Dec 18, 2012 | 02:15 PM
  #10  
harleymsn's Avatar
harleymsn
FTE Chapter Leader
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 3,636
Likes: 11
From: Crossville, Tn
Club FTE Silver Member

Originally Posted by JimG1098
let a professional do it in a cage. Would not touch them at all, personally They will KILL you

JimG
The PROBLEM with this suggestion is that nearly every professional will refuse to touch them. When I swapped out my wiowmakers, I contacted every truck tire shop within 200 miles and none of them even wanted the truck on their property with widowmakers on it.

Originally Posted by thomabb
I think I am misunderstanding your question. Do you want to unmount the tire from the rim or get the wheel off the truck?

Either way I think you should deflate the tire first, especially if the rim is rusty or you don't know the history.
Originally Posted by The Horvaths
BTW: deflate prior to -any- attempt to remove from rims.
Many folks prefer to deflate prior to removal from axles.
WRONG, DO NOT DEFLATE before removing from the vehicle as while deflating is the MOST dangerous time. While mounted on the truck you will not be able to wrap a chain of sufficient capacity through a hand hole and around the tire. As long as they are inflated, remove carefully, then wrap a chain tightly through the hand hole and around the tire as tightly as possible, doing at least two hand holes.
 
Reply
Old Dec 18, 2012 | 02:33 PM
  #11  
51PanelMan's Avatar
51PanelMan
Lead Driver
20 Year Member
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 7,669
Likes: 13
From: San Jose, CA
Just curious, once the WM are removed, what is the disposal procedure? I'm thinking that they can still "blow up" at any time, especially during handling, correct?

To those that had WM and were successful in removing them, what did you do with them afterwards? How/where did you dispose of them?
 
Reply
Old Dec 18, 2012 | 02:50 PM
  #12  
truckdog62563's Avatar
truckdog62563
Marmon-Herrington Man
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Liked
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 11,984
Likes: 444
From: Central Illinois
Club FTE Gold Member
The ones I've pulled apart have all had dead tires, or I just sacrificed the tires. So once the air has been released and the wheels safely off the truck, I use a sawzall to cut the tires off, then have pulled them apart to get the beads off. Then it's off I go to the recyclers. Tires go to a big truck shop near here, and wheels to the crusher. Stu
 
Reply
Old Dec 18, 2012 | 03:19 PM
  #13  
raytasch's Avatar
raytasch
Believe Nothing
20 Year Member
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 7,512
Likes: 394
From: W. Central FL.
Club FTE Silver Member

Just curious, once the WM are removed, what is the disposal procedure? I'm thinking that they can still "blow up" at any time, especially during handling, correct?

To those that had WM and were successful in removing them, what did you do with them afterwards? How/where did you dispose of them?


At least one of mine will have second life as a fire ring. I never throw anything away that I don't later regret. Once the air pressure is gone the biggest danger is mashing a toe if it falls on your foot.
 
Reply
Old Dec 19, 2012 | 05:07 PM
  #14  
fordf348's Avatar
fordf348
Laughing Gas
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,230
Likes: 199
From: near Philadelphia Pa
Just curious, has anyone here actually experienced a problem with the widow makers?
I have them on my 48 F-3 and just installed new tires on them

Ed
 
Reply
Old Dec 19, 2012 | 05:18 PM
  #15  
truckdog62563's Avatar
truckdog62563
Marmon-Herrington Man
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Liked
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 11,984
Likes: 444
From: Central Illinois
Club FTE Gold Member
Earlier this year I sold a set of 19.5" tubeless wheels to a new F-4 owner. As he was loading his new treasure on the trailer it blew an inner dual WM. Scared sin out of him, thankful it blew inward toward the truck instead of blowing an outer dual out away from the truck. His first act was to buy wheels. All my WMs, I have several, sit with no air in them. Stu
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:57 AM.

story-0
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-1
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-2
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-3
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

Slideshow: 10 most surprising Ford truck options/features in 2026.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:17:22


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

Slideshow: Here are the top 10 Fords coming to Mecum Indy 2026.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:49:49


VIEW MORE
story-6
5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

Slideshow: The 5 best and 5 worst Ford truck wheels of all time

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:49:01


VIEW MORE
story-7
Ford Super Duty: 5 Things Owners LOVE, 5 Things They LOATHE!

Slideshow: Ranking the 5 things owners love about their Super Duty and 5 things they don't

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:36:49


VIEW MORE
story-8
Every 2026 Ford Truck Engine RANKED from WORST to FIRST!

Slideshow: Ranking all 12 Ford truck engines available in 2026.

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 13:32:20


VIEW MORE
story-9
The Best F-150 Deal of Every Trim Level (XL through Raptor)

Slideshow: The best Ford F-150 deal for every trim level (XL through Raptor)

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-21 15:59:01


VIEW MORE