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Old Jan 18, 2013 | 01:06 PM
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thanks!! appreciate the links B&L!!

any pointers on doing this that u learned and could help me?

also, when u bake the lights at 265 in the oven.. how do u go about doing that? do u wrap them or lay them on something? i dont understand how they dont melt..

and how long did this whole project take you?
 
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Old Jan 18, 2013 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by blue oval fan
thanks!! appreciate the links B&L!!

any pointers on doing this that u learned and could help me?

also, when u bake the lights at 265 in the oven.. how do u go about doing that? do u wrap them or lay them on something? i dont understand how they dont melt..

and how long did this whole project take you?
I'm sure there's a few, the biggest thing is to take your time and be precise, it'll save you time in the end. Look up the JNC method on HID planet. I used that except modified it to use larger 1/4" bolts and threaded the existing FXR mounting holes. Each projector will be different, but that's a good starting point. Feel free to ask any questions you might have once you get started.

Just put them in the oven on a rack. They won't melt. They are hot when you take them out though!

About a year lol. I had them in my garage for months before I got around to it. Actual time was about 2 weeks. I spent a solid weekend in the garage and a few evenings. The biggest part of that time was coming up with the design and plan, and learning by trial and error. If I had to do it again, I'd say I could do it in a day, maybe two, because you do have to wait on things to dry/cure.

It really isn't a difficult job if you've got some mechanical know how, some ingenuity and a Dremel tool.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2013 | 01:02 AM
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B&LLandscaping,

Agree these stock lights do suck. I'm clueless on HIDs so wanted to ask which shroud type and wire harness did you get?
 
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Old Jan 26, 2013 | 09:29 PM
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I went with the Apollo shrouds.

The wiring harness is unique to each make/model and will be specified for you, but it's the bi-xenon system for H13 bulbs. TRS makes the wiring harnesses themselves for each kit. I went with Morimoto ballasts and OEM Phillips bulbs.
 
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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 12:14 AM
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^^^ Thanks for the info, much appreciated.
 
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Old Feb 2, 2013 | 04:01 PM
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B&L,

Started the retrofit with TRS gear today. Removing the grill and the headlight assemblies was easy. Disassembling the headlights is a different story. Appears the adhesive used by Ford is not one that is softening up at the 265 degrees, it still behaves like silicon caulk at that temp. I resorted to using various implements of distruction to remove as much as possible, then a heat gun (sparingly) to get that last bit to give up it's grip. Half way through the first light and thinking... Hmm... glad I'm not planning on driving anywhere soon. Any hints on getting these things apart? Thanks!
 
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Old Feb 2, 2013 | 04:04 PM
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B&L,

Started the retrofit with TRS gear today. Removing the grill and the headlight assemblies was easy. Disassembling the headlights is a different story. Appears the adhesive used by Ford is not one that is softening up at the 265 degrees, it still behaves like silicon caulk at that temp. I resorted to using various implements of distruction to remove as much as possible, then a heat gun (sparingly) to get that last bit to give up it's grip. Half way through the first light and thinking... Hmm... glad I'm not planning on driving anywhere soon. Any hints on getting these things apart? Thanks!
I used a butter knife to get in there a separate the sealant as soon as I took it from the oven. Lots of pulling, my finger tips were killing by the time I had both housings apart.
 
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Old Feb 2, 2013 | 04:41 PM
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I used a butter knife to get in there a separate the sealant as soon as I took it from the oven. Lots of pulling, my finger tips were killing by the time I had both housings apart.
I used chisels. Get it good and hot, until it's hard to handle, and then start working around the edge like you're changing a tire. Get one chisel in, get it started, move a few inches away, get another chisel in. Then use a third one and get it started. Now pull the one from the middle and keep slowly stepping out with small bites. Be sure to keep pressure on it and have something in there to keep it separated, it gets easier as you go. You might have to reheat half way through. Once you get it apart, a heat gun, sharp chisel and good razor blade utility knife will get it cleaned up.

This is BY FAR the worst part of the process lol.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2013 | 01:29 PM
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Ok, first headlight assembly is apart, marked the wall with the cutoff from the Halogen bulb, cut the reflector and test fit the projector. Only problem is the projector pattern is significantly different than the Halogen. Instructions are not clear on exactly what I'm suppose to be lining up. Any thoughts out there? Sure appreciate the help since TRS isn't available till tomorrow.

Photo below shows halogen on left and HID on right. Ignore the far right piece of tape.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2013 | 01:36 PM
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Can you adjust the projector the same way you would a regular bulb?
 
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Old Feb 3, 2013 | 01:39 PM
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Yep, the projectors end up epoxied to the existing reflectors. The reflectors are still mounted on the headlight adjusters to they will work the same.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2013 | 01:43 PM
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I believe it's the housing that actually adjusts, not the bulb itself. I bet if you adjust the housing down a bit the projector should adjust down too if they are glued together now.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2013 | 01:47 PM
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2nd, true, I've not yet epoxied. I'm trying to determine exactly what the "Cutoff" alignment is supposed to be. My concern is that the Halagen seems to cutoff down to the right while the projector is UP to the right.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2013 | 02:49 PM
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All projectors cut off up and to the right.

You will have up/down adjustment with the stock adjustment screw. The tops of the cut offs on both projectors should be level, and the bottom lines should be level as well, and 2-3" below perfectly horizontal with the center of the projector at 25 ft away.

The critical thing to be sure of before you epoxy anything is the right/left alignment, that can't be adjusted after the fact. Essentially the base of the cut off point should be directly in front of the headlight. Move them forward and backward, if the aiming point moves to either side, they're not straight.

Do a Google search on aiming them, there's TONS of info out there.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2013 | 03:16 PM
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BL, will do, I've looked at a number of sites and there doesn't seem to be standard definitions or drawings. Thanks
 
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