Time for some HIDs
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Since I slammed the DDM ones I will say that they do make an excellent light source for offroad use. 
That is ebay conversions filled with DDM HIDs. If you wanted something similar for your newer trucks i would put the H3 HIDs in something like KC Daylighter...
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That is ebay conversions filled with DDM HIDs. If you wanted something similar for your newer trucks i would put the H3 HIDs in something like KC Daylighter...
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From: FLG AZ
Anyone tried anything from Pro Tuning Lab? Looks like a direct replacement.
http://www.protuninglab.com/201120121.html
http://www.protuninglab.com/201120121.html
Anxious to hear if anyone has tried these. I'm afraid the quality of the lamps/ballasts must be pretty poor to be able to sell them for what they are asking.
Anyone tried these? Photos and thoughts please if so....
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"done right" is using proper projectors that are designed to use the different focal point a HID bulb makes. You can buy a normal halogen projector, but these will glare just as bad as the idiots that stick HID bulbs in normal reflector beam lamps (what the SD has stock)
Your retrofix with FX projectors looks great B&L
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"done right" is using proper projectors that are designed to use the different focal point a HID bulb makes. You can buy a normal halogen projector, but these will glare just as bad as the idiots that stick HID bulbs in normal reflector beam lamps (what the SD has stock)
Your retrofix with FX projectors looks great B&L
Your retrofix with FX projectors looks great B&L
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Blinding oncoming drivers is even worse when a HID bulb/ballast is installed in a halogen projector because of the superior light projection over a normal reflector beam setup. Our trucks don't come with the halogen projector option, but plenty of cars do, and some people simply install HID bulb/ballast in these projectors.
Now, Hopefully people that buy those cheesy ebay "halo projector" setups availible for our SD's are smart enough to buy the one designed for HID's as opposed to the standard halogen ones that are a few bucks cheaper. And hopefully the chineese manufacturers of these terrible terrible looking lights are putting different projectors in the HID lamps instead of making a bazillion of the exact same thing, then adding HID bulbs/ballast to some and charging more for them. I'm doubtful of the later.
I'll be doing the FX projectors in my truck some day, they throw light the best out of all the projector's I've seen.
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With over 1900 post on this forum, I'm going to assume that you know how terrible of an idea it is to put a HID bulb/balast setup in a standard halogen reflector type housing (our SD's stock setup) due to it blinding oncoming cars.
Blinding oncoming drivers is even worse when a HID bulb/ballast is installed in a halogen projector because of the superior light projection over a normal reflector beam setup. Our trucks don't come with the halogen projector option, but plenty of cars do, and some people simply install HID bulb/ballast in these projectors.
Now, Hopefully people that buy those cheesy ebay "halo projector" setups availible for our SD's are smart enough to buy the one designed for HID's as opposed to the standard halogen ones that are a few bucks cheaper. And hopefully the chineese manufacturers of these terrible terrible looking lights are putting different projectors in the HID lamps instead of making a bazillion of the exact same thing, then adding HID bulbs/ballast to some and charging more for them. I'm doubtful of the later.
I'll be doing the FX projectors in my truck some day, they throw light the best out of all the projector's I've seen.
Blinding oncoming drivers is even worse when a HID bulb/ballast is installed in a halogen projector because of the superior light projection over a normal reflector beam setup. Our trucks don't come with the halogen projector option, but plenty of cars do, and some people simply install HID bulb/ballast in these projectors.
Now, Hopefully people that buy those cheesy ebay "halo projector" setups availible for our SD's are smart enough to buy the one designed for HID's as opposed to the standard halogen ones that are a few bucks cheaper. And hopefully the chineese manufacturers of these terrible terrible looking lights are putting different projectors in the HID lamps instead of making a bazillion of the exact same thing, then adding HID bulbs/ballast to some and charging more for them. I'm doubtful of the later.
I'll be doing the FX projectors in my truck some day, they throw light the best out of all the projector's I've seen.
I feel honored to have 25% of your entire post dedicated to me
Merry Christmas 
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Did you even read the thread? I'm trying to find the type of projectors that I want from my truck...I never said I planed to install them without projectors. Your point was already covered by Otahyoni.
I feel honored to have 25% of your entire post dedicated to me Merry Christmas
I feel honored to have 25% of your entire post dedicated to me
Merry Christmas 
However, I would like to comment directly towards you and your order with DDM tuning. Jim Powell, the owner of DDM is/was a pretty good guy, but the company sells a pretty crappy product with their HID kits. Peruse a few BMW forums and read how DDM has steadily declined in quality over the past 10 years. Bimmerforums used to have a subforum just for DDM to meddle it's products, but have since dumped them just as the rest of DDM's loyal customers have.
Caveat emptor.
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B&l can you set me up with the website you ordered from?
and like tinman has asked. is there anyone that has bought the whole headlight and just replaced the OEM headlight? that way i dont end up butchering the oem headlight assembly...
and like tinman has asked. is there anyone that has bought the whole headlight and just replaced the OEM headlight? that way i dont end up butchering the oem headlight assembly...
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Some other good links -
HiDplanet : The Official Automotive Lighting Forum
HID plug n play fails govt test
The last link is a pretty good case against putting HID bulbs in the stock halogen housings, and why it's causing the gov't to crack down on HIDs.
Lots of good reading there too about why going with 10K lights is a REALLY bad idea.