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Old Dec 5, 2012 | 10:27 PM
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Trans flush or no flush

I have a 2001 7.3 psd and am just looking for info as to weather I should flush my transmission. I have heard that it is not good to flush a transmission and to just change the filter and fluid in the pan. What should I do any input helps. Thanks everyone.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2012 | 10:44 PM
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the only time I wouldnt consider a trany flush like Mark K. has recomended, would be if the trany was very dirty inside from years with out oil change, it could loosen up some settled debri.otherwise you have everything to gain.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2012 | 05:12 AM
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-Don't know if the '01 still has a torque converter drain, but if it does I'd recommend just draining IT and the pan, change filter, clean inside of pan hospital clean & you'll be fine.
I personally am not a fan of flushing.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2012 | 07:01 AM
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All 2001 trucks left the factory with a drain plug in the torque converter. Either drain the converter and pan or do a fluid exchange like this: Changing ATF Fluid in a E4OD and 4R100 transmission .: Articles.

Many places also do flushes. IF they do it right it is safe. As any procedure, if they screw it up, such as using the wrong fluid, it will harm the transmission.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2012 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Mark Kovalsky
All 2001 trucks left the factory with a drain plug in the torque converter. Either drain the converter and pan or do a fluid exchange like this: Changing ATF Fluid in a E4OD and 4R100 transmission .: Articles.

Many places also do flushes. IF they do it right it is safe. As any procedure, if they screw it up, such as using the wrong fluid, it will harm the transmission.
Yeah, what he said! Really, Mark's procedure is great, and doesn't force anything through the trans, just a complete fluid exchange. Not very difficult.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2012 | 09:09 AM
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Did it myself a few months ago and am almost due again. It's so easy, I was mad that I let the dealer do it so many times before...
 
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Old Dec 6, 2012 | 09:22 AM
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When I worked in the auto industry there was confusion between a flush and a fluid change. Flushing was construed to mean using a chemical to flush the transmission and the converter. There was problems with this procedure causing a variety of transmission problems. A fluid change uses no chemical, you're just replacing the old fluid with the new fluid. But as other have stated do a complete flush. There are many good articles here at this site that'll guide you through the procedure. I have both an early 99 (265,000) and a late 99 (194,000) both get a fluid exchange and filter. I start with doing the job, sending a sample to Blackstone for analysis and follow their recommendation on the next change interval. Ford recommends 15,000 miles. With oil analysis I'm up to 30,000 miles between changes. I need to state that I do take a sample at each oil change. I tow a goose neck trailer with horses in the summer and haul a 9' cabover camper as well. Neither transmission has required any work other than the oil and filter changes. My trucks are basically stock with only a few mods.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2012 | 10:22 AM
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Here is what I found out when I drained my tranny. I always completely flush the entire tranny when I get a "new" vehcle which does not have a TC plug (normally not). That's always the best way to do it. However, with the drain plug on the TC, there is no need to flush, wasting all the extra expensive fluid and the big messs. Here is the numbers I recorded when I did mine:7.2L from the TC, 6.25L from the pan, 0.3L from the cooler. Hope that this helps. Eriwn
 
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Old Dec 6, 2012 | 10:50 AM
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Thanks for all the input everyone now it is just time to get dirty and get it done.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2012 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Jake_f16
Thanks for all the input everyone now it is just time to get dirty and get it done.
If you're just going to drain the converter and pan its really not that messy.
Just slip under the truck and remove the drain plug from one or the other, let it drain into your catch pan, then do the other, let them drain until you get just a sliver-thin stream or just a drip-drip-drip, again, change the filter, hospital clean the trans pan, re-install & you should be good to go.

When re-filling I strongly suggest Mercon V fluid, your trans will thank you!
I believe the trans holds 14 quarts (someone correct me if I'm wrong) and you should add 1/2 of that, start the engine for about 30 seconds, then add the rest-this will allow the trans pump to suck up the first amount.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2012 | 01:50 PM
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The trans holds about 18 quarts. You won't get that much out of the converter and pan.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2012 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Supercab
If you're just going to drain the converter and pan its really not that messy.
Just slip under the truck and remove the drain plug from one or the other, let it drain into your catch pan, then do the other, let them drain until you get just a sliver-thin stream or just a drip-drip-drip, again, change the filter, hospital clean the trans pan, re-install & you should be good to go.

When re-filling I strongly suggest Mercon V fluid, your trans will thank you!
I believe the trans holds 14 quarts (someone correct me if I'm wrong) and you should add 1/2 of that, start the engine for about 30 seconds, then add the rest-this will allow the trans pump to suck up the first amount.
Refill capacity (with empty torque converter) is ~ 18 quarts. Manual says "17.7 quarts". Completey empty trans, as in a rebuild or new.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2012 | 01:56 PM
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Mark beat me to it!
 
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Old Dec 7, 2012 | 09:29 PM
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Awesome guys thanks for the info I have a aftermarket pan that is a little bigger but no big deal I will just grab some extra fluid. When I drain the pan and the TC when I start the truck up will it suck up the fluid and fill my TC back up? I appreciate all the help!!!
 
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Old Dec 7, 2012 | 11:17 PM
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Jake, my girlfriend and I did this per Marks procedures and although I over analyzed it too much, the procedure was AWESOME. It was way easier than I thought possible and at the end my GF said, after all this you were worried ... It took a few hours because I was overly cautious, but it really worked great and I plan to do it in another 10k miles. goodluck.
 
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