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Old Dec 2, 2012 | 02:13 AM
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I'm on the ford website and I'm trying trying to build a lariat that has a payload as low as ours and I ant get lower than 2600+
The stated payload capacity on the website and the actual capacity are two different things. 10,000 lb GVWR on a truck that weighs 8000+ lbs leaves you with less than 2000 lbs of payload capacity, no matter what Ford says on their website. If you're going to get a Super Duty, no point in getting the 250, get the F-350.

In some cases, an F-150 with the max payload package actually has a higher capacity than an F-250.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2012 | 02:58 AM
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Originally Posted by kd0axs
The stated payload capacity on the website and the actual capacity are two different things. 10,000 lb GVWR on a truck that weighs 8000+ lbs leaves you with less than 2000 lbs of payload capacity, no matter what Ford says on their website. If you're going to get a Super Duty, no point in getting the 250, get the F-350.

In some cases, an F-150 with the max payload package actually has a higher capacity than an F-250.
lol see how much the f250 gets tossed around when towing though. Ask me, I know.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2012 | 03:27 AM
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Originally Posted by kd0axs
The stated payload capacity on the website and the actual capacity are two different things. 10,000 lb GVWR on a truck that weighs 8000+ lbs leaves you with less than 2000 lbs of payload capacity, no matter what Ford says on their website. If you're going to get a Super Duty, no point in getting the 250, get the F-350.

In some cases, an F-150 with the max payload package actually has a higher capacity than an F-250.
Ahhhh. Very helpful.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2012 | 03:33 AM
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lol see how much the f250 gets tossed around when towing though. Ask me, I know.
It's amazing how little the dealers know about anything. I've been trying to do my homework (ford dodge Chevy tow tongue weight payload etc) all they can tell me is "these trucks were built for pulling trailers". When I ask what the payload is they say "I sold a truck to a lady who pulls 20,000 lbs of cattle no problem". I guess because some lady does it I should be convinced.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2012 | 03:44 AM
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You know, my wives 2010 f150 ( 4.6 liter) could tow just fine. But to put compare that towing the same load to my f250 is night and day. I mean three quads on the back of my f150 and it was really feeling the load, where my 250 would barely feel such a load.

Just depends on what you need. Heck my dealer out in the Prairies tried to talk me out of getting the 6.7 lol
 
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Old Dec 2, 2012 | 03:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Manofsteel
It's amazing how little the dealers know about anything. I've been trying to do my homework (ford dodge Chevy tow tongue weight payload etc) all they can tell me is "these trucks were built for pulling trailers". When I ask what the payload is they say "I sold a truck to a lady who pulls 20,000 lbs of cattle no problem". I guess because some lady does it I should be convinced.
Jeeze, I dunno what to tell ya. When I went into my current dealer, he tried to convince me I didn't need such a big truck, but when I told him I was looking at a 5,200kg fifth wheel he did finally agree with my needs.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2012 | 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Manofsteel
I'm on the ford website and I'm trying trying to build a lariat that has a payload as low as ours and I ant get lower than 2600+
If you get one that has the 10k gvwr rating, you should be fine. Our truck like I said has the 9600lb gvwr and I weighed just the truck full of gas and it weighs over 7300lbs with no one in it. Mind you I have a Retrax rolltop cover, the bed extender a rubber Ford bed matt that looks like a stall mat and every option in the truck short of a sun roof you can get. A 10k gvwr model would have given you in excess of 2600lb payload even in my truck.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2012 | 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Quad Racer
My vote would be for a 250 SD. Not that the ecoboost couldn't, but a heavier truck will tow better.

As far as motor is concerned, from your description I would recommend a gas engine over a diesel engine. There are benifits to both and drawbacks to both. It'll also depend on your budget.

It's kinda like a trophy wife that is high maintanance and a real looker (diesel) vs a thicker girl that cooks and cleans real good (gasser). haha. Both can do the same job.
That is a great analogy! Love the comparison!
 
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Old Dec 2, 2012 | 08:56 AM
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Just got done test driving 2012 gas 3.73 and then the diesel immediately after. Love the diesel. Thanks for the vids

If you arent sold on the diesel yet, drive a gas truck (6.2) with the 4.30's. Some with the 3.73's don't care for that gearing.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2012 | 09:05 AM
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Here is a link to the Ford Towing Guides. All the good data the sales folks should show you, but would rather tell you about ladies hauling cattle.

Ford Towing Guides | The Official Site of Ford Vehicles | Ford.com

You can then compare the F150 to the Superdutys.

If you are only looking at the diesel for fuel economy, remember that diesel costs significantly more than unleaded, so your cost per mile may not reflect any savings.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2012 | 09:38 AM
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Fwiw... I had a 2011 Ecoboost F150. Not a bad overall truck, but had some issues that I wasn't happy with. MPG being one of them, and was stretching the limits of the payload capacity more frequently. I went with a F250 6.2L/3.73 gears. MPG seem to be [sadly] very close to the ecoboost, but at least I have a more capable truck now. From a towing perspective, the ecoboost pulls like a train, but is always on the boost and will gulp the fuel.

Good luck with your decision. With 125.0 kms on my new 6.2, I'm liking it...lol
 
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If the truck is only towing 15 miles each way twice a week for 60 total miles and then the truck will be a daily commuter the rest of the time I would say get the max tow F150 ecoboost.
 
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Define stretching the limits of payload please. Was it over 2200 lbs?
 
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Old Dec 3, 2012 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 96sherm
Fwiw... I had a 2011 Ecoboost F150. Not a bad overall truck, but had some issues that I wasn't happy with. MPG being one of them, and was stretching the limits of the payload capacity more frequently. I went with a F250 6.2L/3.73 gears. MPG seem to be [sadly] very close to the ecoboost, but at least I have a more capable truck now. From a towing perspective, the ecoboost pulls like a train, but is always on the boost and will gulp the fuel.

Good luck with your decision. With 125.0 kms on my new 6.2, I'm liking it...lol
Hi. Can you define stretching the limits.

Ecoboost was my first choice.
 
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