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California diesel emissions........

So I'm looking at buying a 2008 2009 super duty. Dealer told me that in California if you have a 2008 and you are second owner you are emissions exempt. Is this true???? If this is the case, can te egr and dpf be removed eliminating all the problems causing these engines problems? I did some research and it looks like if you have a f350 which is a gvwr of 13000 lbs the law doesn't apply. But if I went into a f450 it would cause the law applies to all 14000 lbs and greater vehicles.

What's the deal? Can any body help?
 
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I would be willing to bet the answer is no.
CHPs is pulling trucks off the road and doing OBD2 spot checks.
And it this were the case I bet you would see more people reselling
there trucks to there in-laws to get around the rules.

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Originally Posted by redz284u
So I'm looking at buying a 2008 2009 super duty. Dealer told me that in California if you have a 2008 and you are second owner you are emissions exempt. Is this true???? If this is the case, can te egr and dpf be removed eliminating all the problems causing these engines problems? I did some research and it looks like if you have a f350 which is a gvwr of 13000 lbs the law doesn't apply. But if I went into a f450 it would cause the law applies to all 14000 lbs and greater vehicles.

What's the deal? Can any body help?
If you are 14000 GVW or more you are smog exempt but may have some commercial regualtions to deal with depending on what you use the truck for.

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CHPs is pulling trucks off the road and doing OBD2 spot checks.
Where did you hear that? They dont just pull people over to do checks, or do you mean inspection stations? They do sometimes set up make shift inspection stations, but only on state highways and at designated areas (although unless you know its a designated area, you wont be able to tell because they arent signed, just approved shoulder areas with plenty of room.) We have one of those make shift inspection areas right by my house and I've seen it used maybe 2 or 3 times in the past few years.
 
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It was a comment that some one here made and I bet that they were talking
about the inspection stations that you are.Do you have some info on them?
Like do they pull everyone of just instate plates?
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Originally Posted by redz284u
So I'm looking at buying a 2008 2009 super duty. Dealer told me that in California if you have a 2008 and you are second owner you are emissions exempt. Is this true???? If this is the case, can te egr and dpf be removed eliminating all the problems causing these engines problems? I did some research and it looks like if you have a f350 which is a gvwr of 13000 lbs the law doesn't apply. But if I went into a f450 it would cause the law applies to all 14000 lbs and greater vehicles.

What's the deal? Can any body help?
Let me translate from salesperson-speak into normal-person speak:

We have a Super Duty with a 6.4L Power Stroke in it, after we got it on trade we discovered that a DPF delete had been performed on it. Now, we can't sell the stupid truck unless we find someone who we can get to believe that the truck is exempt from emission laws.

I bet the purchase order comes with an "as is, where is, no guarantee, warranty, or promise that this truck will pass inspection" clause.
 
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Originally Posted by Yahiko
It was a comment that some one here made and I bet that they were talking
about the inspection stations that you are.Do you have some info on them?
Like do they pull everyone of just instate plates?
Thanks

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They dont "pull" anyone over. They make a staging area out of a large shoulder and point to a truck (usually semi's but technically any commercial vehicle) and he pulls in. They then put up a sign that says PASS and when they are done, the move the sign, point to another truck and so on and so forth. But they dont discriminate between states.
 
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I would also be concerned about the warranty on this truck. Bet they would not even fix anything if there was an issue.

Steer clear unless they bring it into compliance.
 
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I loved living in Cali but man I'm glad I left. You can't hardly **** in your own yard anymore.
 
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I loved living in Cali but man I'm glad I left. You can't hardly **** in your own yard anymore.
Ashley Warden, Oklahoma Mom, Gets $2,500 Public Urination Ticket After Toddler Pees In Yard (VIDEO)
 
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That is one expensive little whizz.

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what a shame. I just whizzed in my yard for good measure and didn't get caught.
 
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Did you watch that video? I usually get along with the people in blue.
But this one seemed to be looking to pay for more than his fair share
of coffee and donuts . But then again I do know a few small town cops.........
He needs to find a new place to hang out. Maybe stop a real crime
not some 3yo taking a whizz.

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The officer in question lost his job over the incident and the ticket was over turned.
 
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Not that I like it when people loose there jobs.
But I think he earned that one

Back to the inspection question. If I am driving my WA platted truck that is
not a commercial vehicle. Do I have to pull over to be tested? Most cases
it would be me and my truck. Possibility a trailer with some dead plane parts on
going to be scrapped. No ICC#

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Originally Posted by Yahiko
Back to the inspection question. If I am driving my WA platted truck that is
not a commercial vehicle. Do I have to pull over to be tested? Most cases
it would be me and my truck. Possibility a trailer with some dead plane parts on
going to be scrapped. No ICC#

Sean
If the officer points to you, you had better pull over. But as soon as he realizes you are not a commercial driver or driving for commercial use (for hire) then you will be on your way. Generally they dont waste their time with pickups because of that fuzzy line you are inquiring about. They are more concerned with bigrigs keeping up on safety items and log books than if the pickup has a MC permit.

Slightly off topic, here is something to help you understand how WONDERFUL the California system is.

All pickups are registered, by default, as commercial vehicles. We have COMMERCIAL marked on our registration and have a different senescence of letters and numbers on our license plate that identifies it as a commercial vehicle. This can be reversed if you convet the bed of the truck to be habitable for humans, and appeal at the DMV.

So my truck is a commercial vehicle, do I have to stop at weigh stations or commercial vehicle inspection stations? No. They have signs posted "NO PICKUPS"

Ok that clears that up! Nope, not quite. Pickups over 15,000lbs GVW (I believe thats the threshold, dont quote me on the exact number) must stop at the station, despite the NO PICKUPS sign, even if they are for noncommercial use.
 
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