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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 07:10 PM
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Mentioned before and will mention again... The Michelins are EXCELLENT tires...
But you pay for what you get!
 
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 08:06 PM
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Definately worth the money. Goodyear, Bridgestone, Firestone - priced them all and you save maybe 100-200$ in costs but I read thousands of reviews and was hard pressed to find one person say they regretted buying Michelins. I figure I will save that $200 over the life of tire a couple times over, in not throwing $$ at other parts thinking they are the problem, not having to constantly re balance to keep it smooth, and then there is the lower alcohol bill from the stress relief of a vibration free vehicle!
 
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 08:12 PM
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I really like my michelins that came with it.
Sammie, did get an alignment included in that price?
Would you mind sharing where you bought them?
That is a great price installed. Wow
 
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Misky6.0
I really like my michelins that came with it.
Sammie, did get an alignment included in that price?
Would you mind sharing where you bought them?
That is a great price installed. Wow
Alignment no because I am getting a Red Head Steering box in two weeks and it will be aligned after that's installed, that would have been extra.

I got them at place call Riley Tire - small place in Greenfield, Indiana. Friend of a family member and family member owns a motorsports shop that sells snowmobiles etc, so ran it through the shop as a business to business and avoided some of those retail fees, such as disposal and well sales tax. They tossed in a spare tire out of their extra stack too boot since these are one size bigger than my stock tires were, it's not pretty but it will get me home or too a store if I ever blow a tread.

I paid $230 a tire which is $920 and $39 to have them mounted and balanced.
 
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 09:54 PM
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Glad you finally got it all fixed (except for the steering box), your persistence is paying off.
 
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by sammie0126
Alignment no because I am getting a Red Head Steering box in two weeks and it will be aligned after that's installed, that would have been extra.
Remember that with this kind of steering system the wheel alignment isn't affected by anything other than the outer tie rod ends. The two that make up the drag link as well as the pitman arm and steering box have absolutely nothing to do with it. The steering would have to be centered again, but there's no need for an alignment shop to do this because it's a simple affair with the adjusting sleeve.

Just undo the two nuts and rotate with a pair of vice grips, no alignment required.
 
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 10:14 PM
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Remember that with this kind of steering system the wheel alignment isn't affected by anything other than the outer tie rod ends. The two that make up the drag link as well as the pitman arm and steering box have absolutely nothing to do with it. The steering would have to be centered again, but there's no need for an alignment shop to do this because it's a simple affair with the adjusting sleeve.

Just undo the two nuts and rotate with a pair of vice grips, no alignment required.
But they can still align it before or after the box and hopefully there is an eccentric bushing near the upper ball joint, otherwise it's just a matter of doing the toe-in which I do myself by eye but it can also be done with a tape measure or a string...........pretty easy any way you look at it. (the toe-in). Granted the only adjustment after the box is the centering of the steering wheel so Sammie make sure the wheel is centered correctly.
 
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Old Nov 21, 2012 | 06:57 AM
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But they can still align it before or after the box and hopefully there is an eccentric bushing near the upper ball joint, otherwise it's just a matter of doing the toe-in which I do myself by eye but it can also be done with a tape measure or a string...........pretty easy any way you look at it. (the toe-in). Granted the only adjustment after the box is the centering of the steering wheel so Sammie make sure the wheel is centered correctly.
Read the instructions on strapping it down so it doesn't move and I will find a way to make sure it stays put, and do some searching on the toe settings. I do have a detailed print out on the numbers it was set to last time. It's marked now like this picture, should I mark it anywhere else before I start doing the box? Or are you saying none of this should move during the installation?

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Remember that with this kind of steering system the wheel alignment isn't affected by anything other than the outer tie rod ends. The two that make up the drag link as well as the pitman arm and steering box have absolutely nothing to do with it. The steering would have to be centered again, but there's no need for an alignment shop to do this because it's a simple affair with the adjusting sleeve.

Just undo the two nuts and rotate with a pair of vice grips, no alignment required.
I got a new (well gently used) pitman arm, and honestly I did that because I knew it wouldn't be able to get the old one off. So I get my new box install the arm onto it, (have to figure out the centering thing on it first) seen some posts on how to make sure it is centered so it fits and the wheel is straight. Last thing I want to do is install the arm then have to pull it back off. So for me just undoing the cotter pin to release the outer arm, disconnecting from the steering linkage and unbolting the box, an hopefully bolting the new one and and hooking it up. Got a friend who said he would take the core and get the pitman arm off for me so I can send it back. Maybe I will do another "for dummies' write up on it since I didn't know what a pitman arm was until 6 months ago I will for sure be a "dummy".
 
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You get the steering wheel as close as you can and then fine tune it with the linkage sleeve underneath. The pitman arm is just a matter of removing the nut and using a puller to remove it. It does require a 1 5/16 socket and 200 pounds of torque when your put it back on (double check my info). You can borrow the puller at a parts store and maybe a socket. http://www.thedieselstop.com/forums/...7/#post1799719
 
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Old Nov 21, 2012 | 02:25 PM
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ive always been afraid to put after market rims on the ex since i haul weight, do you know if the aftermarket rims are hub centric? i would like to upgrade but i dont want to downgrade the strength and shear studs off either.
 
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ive always been afraid to put after market rims on the ex since i haul weight, do you know if the aftermarket rims are hub centric? i would like to upgrade but i dont want to downgrade the strength and shear studs off either.
Mine are not but I invested in a set of hub centric rings the good metal ones not the plastic crap, set me back about a 100$ but was worth the piece of mind. Got them from this place

Hub Centric Rings, Wheel Adapters, Wheel Spacers | Motorsport Tech

Most wheels (aftermarket) are 5.150 (130.81) hub bore and our trucks are 124.9 mm hub bore so you need the 130.81 to 124.9 set. They are tight as can be and have had no issues with any movement of the wheels etc.
 
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