That is the typical B-U-L-L-S-H-I-T to exit a car salesman's mouth that I have a very little to no patience for, the kind of verbal diarrhea that gives car salesmen and women very specific reputations. Kudos to you for responding politely. I likely wouldn't have been able to respond as politely.

 

Sounds like a car salesman but it was a private individual, actually his wife that called!

 

Although I understand being desperate to move a product at the highest possible price, I still think tactics like what was described above to be very low on the scruples level, salesman or not.

 

For the trans part, the 5R100 is the best auto tranny you can get in a diesel pickup.

 

40% of your monthly income for a commuter vehicle is wayyyyyy tooooo much!

My commuter is a 1995 GEO Metro 1.0L-3cyl. I paid $1600 for it-no payments, and insurance is $35 for 6 months. It is not the most comfortable, and nobody is impressed with it, but I have a satellite radio, A/C, my navigation system is a Garmin GPS, it takes only 3.5 quarts of regular oil, and it gets 50 MPG hwy, and I get to save my money to really enjoy my truck when I'm not having commute to work.

Just my 2C....

 

I hear ya, it made me laugh when I got the message from them. He was one of those guys that put a bunch of money in a POS and expected a return, wasn't going to happen. I take care of my stuff and still don't ever expect to get any where near what I put into my trucks but if they look good and are treated right they sell good.

I work for friends that have an RV dealership. RV salesmen are generally considered a rung below car salesmen (no offense to either, there are good and bad). I don't sell as much as market and bring the customers to our sales staff. We have a one price policy, no jerking around and no funky trade numbers, just the facts. We have developed a very good reputation as such but we are in the minority. We have a lot of other dealers that hate us for selling at low margins, doing huge volume and most importantly, being honest! We never require a deposit to hold an RV unless it's over 100 days. We lose a lot of sales but buyers appreciate it.

Most dealers promise unrealistic delivery times and prices, take a large deposit, add huge "document fees" and try to sell you everything you don't need. Since they have a deposit, they don't care if the customer gets what they want when they want it. We call them deposit miners. A lot of buyers just walk away and forfeit the deposit. They are too stupid to realize that no buyer will recommend them or ever come back. We have customers that have been coming back for decades! Anyway, sorry... off topic but honesty in general is hard to come buy these days!

 

ok... a FEMALE car salesman....

i'm an electrical contractor by trade.
this means i get to interact with a wide cross section of people.

it never ceases to amaze me what people will say to try to get an
edge up in a financial transaction. someone will want something
done, oftentimes i'll just give them a ballpark figure over the phone.

then, they want to haggle price over the phone, before i've actually
LOOKED at what they want me to do.....

"how much for a 200 amp service upgrade on my house?"

"about $2,500."

"that's a lot of money!"

"yes, it is."

"how much will it be if i buy the material at home depot, so i don't
have to pay for your markup?"

"dunno. ask one of the guys in the parking lot after you get
the material for a price. try to find one who speaks english.
it will make the process easier. have a nice day."

"but the economy is really bad, and people are dropping prices
to do things. everyone is. how much can you discount this for
payment in full when the work is done?"

"um, let me see..... when exactly WERE you planning on paying me?"

if i understand this, i spend several hundred dollars on quality
electrical equipment (not home depot knock offs) pay someone
$500 for a days work (two man job)... maintain liability and workers
comp insurance, spend $10,000 rebuilding my work vehicle 6.0 engine,
and after doing all that, i'm going to have to spend MORE TIME THAN
THE WORK REQUIRED TO COMPLETE, JUST CHASING YOUR SORRY
DEADBEAT BUTT AROUND TRYING TO GET BLOOD OUT OF A TURNIP.


*click*.

another successful sales call completed. they were probably a car
salesman anyway....

when i was a brand new apprentice electrician 35 years ago, the
owner of the shop i was first working for explained this:

"if you are doing service work for an attorney or a physician, you
are to get payment in FULL before starting work, drive to the
bank the check is drawn on, and convert it to a cashiers check.
then you can come back and do the work. no exceptions".

he was 70 years old, and had been in business for 45 years at
that point. so a lot of experience was reflected in that point of
view.

 

And isn't strange that some can "hire" a friend with experience in what ever they need done and expect them to do it cheaper? If they are truly a friend, shouldn't they pay them more to do the work?