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Old Nov 13, 2012 | 01:04 PM
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V8 Throttle Linkage?

A 351W is going into my '70 2WD SB Flare Side F100. It previously had a 300 I6.

The accelerator pedal lever extends over to the right side where the I6 carb was. The 351W will get a Holley 4BBL with accelerator lever attachment on the left side.

Is there a (V8?) accelerator pedal/lever that would line up with the left side of the carb and enable simple linkage? Did a search but didn't find the answer.
 
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Old Nov 13, 2012 | 02:38 PM
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'had the same issue with my 65 'Stang which was converted from a 200 I-6 to a 289.

Yep. Ya need a V8 bell crank and firewall bracket that locates the arm left (driver's side) of the carb. Alternatively, you can cut off the arm and re-weld it to the corrected position.
 
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Old Nov 13, 2012 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by HIO Silver
'had the same issue with my 65 'Stang which was converted from a 200 I-6 to a 289.

Yep. Ya need a V8 bell crank and firewall bracket that locates the arm left (driver's side) of the carb. Alternatively, you can cut off the arm and re-weld it to the corrected position.
I'm not a fan of bell cranks. Was hoping that the V8 linkage was just a rod from the lever on the firewall to the carb. Seems like that's all that should be necessary. Guess I'll see what I can come up with to avoid the bell crank.

Thanks for the info.
 
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Old Nov 13, 2012 | 05:12 PM
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I'm not a fan of bell cranks. Was hoping that the V8 linkage was just a rod from the lever on the firewall to the carb. Seems like that's all that should be necessary. Guess I'll see what I can come up with to avoid the bell crank.
Ummm...you already have a bell crank... it's the part that bolts to the firewall connecting the gas pedal to the throttle rod. The issue is its arm is offset for an I-6 instead of a V8.
 
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Old Nov 13, 2012 | 05:43 PM
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Ummm...you already have a bell crank... it's the part that bolts to the firewall connecting the gas pedal to the throttle rod. The issue is its arm is offset for an I-6 instead of a V8.
I guess you could say that's a bell crank. I'd like to avoid one that mounts on the intake. Just seems overly complex.
 
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Old Nov 13, 2012 | 06:08 PM
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I guess you could say that's a bell crank. I'd like to avoid one that mounts on the intake. Just seems overly complex.
Oh, you are referring to the trapeze linkage on the manifold.. yeah man, lotsa slop. I deleted mine and used a rod straight from the bell crank to the carb.

You'll still need the firewall-mounted V8 arm. They're easy to find at the salvage yard.. it's not a piece that is very sought after... heck, I figure the 73-79s will work too... it's not like these rigs changed significantly btwn the series... in fact, get the system from a 78-79 and some use a ball stud and clipped throttle rod at the carb - Ya don't have to fumble with them stupid rod clips.

I haven't swapped mine out to the ball stud style but here's a pic of the trapeze delete:
 
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Old Nov 29, 2012 | 04:07 PM
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Thanks for the picture. Picked up a bump side V8 pedal yesterday. Its a few inches shorter than the 6 cyl one but I can see from your picture it should work OK.

Now, if I can get the pedal moving freely I won't worry about it sticking the throttle open.. Have it soaking overnight in some ATF.

A friend put a 460 in his '69 CS and used the contraption on the intake.

 
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Old Nov 30, 2012 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by HIO Silver
Oh, you are referring to the trapeze linkage on the manifold.. yeah man, lotsa slop. I deleted mine and used a rod straight from the bell crank to the carb.

You'll still need the firewall-mounted V8 arm. They're easy to find at the salvage yard.. it's not a piece that is very sought after... heck, I figure the 73-79s will work too...

it's not like these rigs changed significantly btwn the series... in fact, get the system from a 78-79 and some use a ball stud and clipped throttle rod at the carb - Ya don't have to fumble with them stupid rod clips.
But they did change it, 1979's use an accelerator cable, in fact 4 of the little charmers: 460 with or without Speed Control / 300 I-6 / 302/351M/400.

All are obsolete, AFAIK, none are reproduced.

btw: The 'trapeze' on the intake manifold: Ford calls it a bellcrank, shoulda called it "sloppy joe." Nylon bushings are used and when they crack apart/disintigrate, it has to be replaced, cuz Ford didn't supply the bushings.

1967 F100/350 352 & 1968/69 F100/350 360/390 use one type / 1970/72 F100/350 360/390 C6 use another.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2012 | 05:57 PM
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But they did change it, 1979's use an accelerator cable, in fact 4 of the little charmers: 460 with or without Speed Control / 300 I-6 / 302/351M/400.
Well, trapeze or bellcrank.... it stunk whatever they called it.

79s eh? Hmm... that's odd.. I haven't come across a cable-operated version. I got a rod and ball stud linkage off a 2WD 79 Super Cab cuz I wrote down its VIN for record keeping after robbing its front sway bar... but after 30 years who knows, right?

I'm keeping record of all the VINs that surrender parts towards my 70 Bump.
 
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I put the torch on mind heated it up and bend it to the right then bend the flat tip back up to line up with the carb linkage. Then make up some linkage carb to cab arm. Worked for 25 yrs til, I used a 2" carb spacer. Had to made a longer carb linkage..orich
 
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I put the torch on mind heated it up and bend it to the right then bend the flat tip back up to line up with the carb linkage. Then make up some linkage carb to cab arm. Worked for 25 yrs til, I used a 2" carb spacer. Had to made a longer carb linkage..orich
That sounds like another good option. Would be nice to use the existing hole in the fire wall and I expect the '89 throttle cable would use a different hole.

I now have both the 6 cyl and 8 cyl accelerator pedals and arms. The 6 cyl arm is longer and would be closer to the right height for the carb linkage. I'll see what lines up best when the engine is installed.

Heads, cam, intake, etc are ready now and I plan to pick them up Wednesday. Can't wait to get things in place and see how it all fits.

Speedway has some nice throttle linkage.
 
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