OK everyone. Let's be calm and think this through.

Like I said before, go back and re-read my original post. This time actually READ it. Nowhere in that post did I say anything negative about the 6.0.

What you will realize, when you actually READ my previous post, is that I was criticizing the worthless statistics that I see being thrown around. 1% this, 10% that. Nobody knows. They are making it up and trying to sell it as fact.

One poster, who claims to be a personal friend of the head of Customer Service for Ford, claims that he was told that the problem rate for the 6.0 is 5%-10%. Are we to believe this?

The poll in this forum shows the major problem rate to be 26% (I misspoke earlier when I said 20%). Is this to be believed?

Now we have another poster claiming that the major problem rate is only 1%. Is this to be believed?

When someone has HARD data, they should post it. Otherwise, they should not guess at the problem rate.

Here is some hard data, 100% of the 6.0's made before March '03 are under a recall to replace the ICP and computer reflash. To some, this is a minor problem. Others, maybe not.

More hard data. Starting April 11, 2003, Navistar started installing redesigned injectors. Does this mean that 100% of the pre-April 11 engines will have injector failures? Probably not, but we don't know that % either.

I do disagree that "issues" like the ones in the 6.0 are "normal start-up" problems.

Those of you with 6.0's, I wish you the best of luck. I am not sorry that I didn't buy a 6.0, it was an economic decision for me. The 7.3 will do what I need and was cheaper, simple as that. No sour grapes here. Drive and be happy.

By the way, my X is my 5th Ford truck in the last 8 years. And I do currently own a Dodge pickup, a fully restored 1948 B-1-B.

 

Gary KJ - 6Q,
That is not what I am saying. You did. Everyone has the right to post on the boards and are entitled to their own opinions.

If you read his post maybe here and the diesel stop.com you will see how his attitude has been towards the 6.0L. It seems there are a lot of people with the "chicken little" sydrome that the sky is falling on the 6.0L that have never owned, driven, or known someone who has had problems with the 6.0L or they drive a competitors make and want to bash the 6.0L. I am no expert on the 6.0L but I don't think there are as many problems as it seems to be according to some. I know some have had problems and feel for and hope Ford does the right thing and either fixes the problems or buys them back.

I come to read and learn and all the bashing and bickering gets old.

oregonfordman,
Mine has the torqueshift with the 4.10 rear end. It is a dually with the FX4 package so it came standard with the 4.10 limited slip. I bought this truck also knowing there could be first year problems but I intend to keep it a very long time and its main use is pulling a 35' travel trailer. If it has problems it is under warranty. If it is out of warranty I will fix it or have it repaired. There is no comparison performance wise to the stock 2001 7.3L I owned. I hope to be on this board reporting on it with 500,000. miles on it.
Greg

 

I am really sorry I started this thread, but as somone mentioned I am a new owner and have had a few problems so I got pi@@ed off. My truck was repaired by Hudspeth Ford in Harrison AR and has been running great since, so hopefully I am on the road to recovery. I also anticipated some start up bugs with this engine but not so quick. Certainly am not going to hold anyone responsible for the first 5 weeks it spent in the shop due to the explosion. I love the truck that's why I bought it. Just want it to run as advertised and right now that is exactly what it is doing.

Please consider this a withdraw of my comment the 6.0 Blows.

Would attach some pictures of the truck under the building but can't figure out how.

 

Glad to see you got the truck fixed. Hope you enjoy many trouble free miles as you deserve them.
Greg

 

AMEN!

We spend WAY too much dough for these trucks to having to fight them and the makers over failures and poor engineering - hope you get nothing but satisfaction outta yours from here on!

 

This is getting like politics. Those who don't vote don't have the right to complain. If you don't have a Ford, don't say anything. And playing the devil's advocate doesn't count as owning one either.

And yes, my father did deal with a Dodge transmission a while back. And my grandfather did deal with cracked heads on a Chevy.

 

"This is getting like politics. Those who don't vote don't have the right to complain. If you don't have a Ford, don't say anything. And playing the devil's advocate doesn't count as owning one either.

And yes, my father did deal with a Dodge transmission a while back. And my grandfather did deal with cracked heads on a Chevy."

HMMmm - so YOU say guys like ME shouldn't make adverse or critical comments about Ford because we don't currently own or have DIRECT experience with one - and as a glowing example, you make critical comments about Dodge and Chevy, not because of problems YOU had with them, but because some of your RELATIVES did?

GREAT example and logic - I can see why you drive a Ford...

And for THAT matter, according to your sig, YOU don't own a 6.0 either - so are not entitled to an opinion any more than *I* am!

 

I ordered a new 2003 X with 6.0 diesel and 4x2 . I am new on the forum. I read all the problems that you guys say you have now i regret dearly ever ordering it . Thats bad to say. I have a 1999 gmc daullie with 5.7 and have never had a problem with it. I have heard so much about the psd that it would make me sick. I needed more room for my family so i said lets try one of them 6.0 diesel. I wanted a yukon with a duramax in it. But everyone said the 6.0 is way stronger. But on the forums it seems i made a bad decision. I love the way the X looks but it will not lookgood in the shop. Is the 6.0 stronger than the 7.3 psd and the 6.8 duramax? Steelman

 

DON'T get overly nervous simply because of what you read in forums like this one - there's a WAY overbalanced number of guys posting WITH problems vs those without, because they are understandably upset and aggressively looking for answers and others to share their misery with - odds are, you will get an EXCELLENT truck you will be quite happy with - yeah, there ARE way too many, percentage wise, having serious problems, but fact is, the MAJORITY are having little or NO problems at all - and I sincerely hope YOU are one of them!

 

Neither you nor anyone else knows what the ratio is for sure.


Again, neither you nor anyone else knows what the true number is, but I will state that I don't believe that 51% (the MAJORITY) are having big problems.

Now, I agree with this. The problem is, buying a new truck should not be a crapshoot. You shouldn't have to have good luck to get a good truck.

I agree again.

I couldn't agree more.

 

This past Wednesday we built our 100,000th engine in Indianapolis (I don't know how many Huntsville has built).

 

Congratulations to your plant Joe.

Have a question - Over in the Diesel-Stop site a group of guys who just went on the Indy plant tour said that their tour guide told them the 04 engines were going to have new injectors and fuel rails that were totally different then the 03 6.0's. They would not retrofit. They even say a 04 motor.

I had not heard about this. Any details?

 

The '04 engine will have new H/P oil rails that are not capable of being retrofitted to the '03 rocker boxes (you'd havev to use the '04 rocker boxes) but I am un aware of any changes to the injectors (they rarely tell me anything).

 

Interesting reading:

http://www.motorage.com/motorage/art...l.jsp?id=58083