B.S.

You have absolutely no concept of how many 6.0 owners are having serious problems. Even people who "know people at Ford" say the number of major problems is 5%-10%.

The poll in this forum shows the number to be closer to 20%.

Cut the crap. I'm glad that you like your truck and that you got a good one, but quit throwing this B.S. around like you know what you are talking about.

If you have HARD numbers from Ford, we'd all like to hear them.

Maybe you need to read some of your own posts!

 

Who the hell are you to talk with a 7.3?

go to a 7.3 forum you dip****. The 6.0 has issues but they can be solved . 6.0 is the king of the road

 

Most owners tend to be proud of and loyal to the brand truck sitting out in their driveway - that's natural and to be expected - if they hadn't LIKED what they bought, they shouldn't bave driven it off the lot...

That said, The biggest difference *I* see between Ford and Chevy owners, is the degree of DENIAL of the existence of KNOWN problems that exist with their particular year/brand of trucks - as compared to the overwhelming tendency of Dodge owners and groups to freely ADMIT the inevitable shortcomings as they crop up, SHARE that weakness, and openly discuss and develop FIXES for them - some of you guys could LEARN from that example, instead of the blind brand loyalty that compells you to essentially say:

"My Ford could blow up out in my driveway and be totally on FIRE, and it would STILL be the best damn truck on the road!"

That's juvenile, foolish, and totally non-productive when dealing with KNOWN and repititous problems that are taking owners trucks off the road daily and keeping them in the shop sometimes for weeks on end!

ALL these brands WILL have failures - some mild, some wild - an that includes MINE! To suggest otherwise, or deny those failures and weaknesses when they inevitably occur is self-defeating, because unless those problems are brought out in the open and discussed freely, along with potential solutions, you are only cheating YOURSELVES!

This isn't about Dodge is BETTER than Ford - or Ford is better than GM - it's about sharing information that might help YOU or someone else with the same problem, or taking advantage of what has surfaced as a reliable fix to head off a known weakness - it DOES work - if you will let go of blind brand loyalty and predjudice - and use the mind God gave you to LEARN and use WHAT you learn... Your truck - or mine that is NOW running so great and shaming the others on the road just MIGHT be the one that's in the shop TOMORROW!

Think about it, and get over the denial and senseless brand bashing/false loyalty bit! After all, TOMORROW, you MIGHT not be laughing quite as much as you are today...

 

well said!!

Forrest <-- TDR member!

 

I agree, but no one knows how frequent those issues are. Throwing made-up numbers around doesn't do anyone any good.

Is the failure rate 1%, 10%, 100%? I don't know, and neither does anyone else.

People read here trying to decide what to buy. Bogus statistics are not helpful.

 

Get off your high horse little man. You know as well as the next guy that most of the people that have recently joined and posted on this site and dieselpost are new owners of the 6.0 and are having problems. That's why they're there because they're having problems. To use some poll.......???? GEE 20%. I would guess that 70% of the people that are on these sites are having some type of problem. That's some revelation. You're a genius! Major problems is the issue and 1% is alot if you are any good at math. They've produced over 50,000 of these. It was 47,000 a month ago. 1% is 470 with major problems. Are there 470 members that have posted major problems. No of course not. It's no mystery that EVERY owner won't find these sites. So let's say 30% find the sites and post. That's 141. Yes these are BS figures, but they are also reality. 20% of major problems would be around 10,000 and the government would have stepped in by now. It just looks worse because many posts are from the same people. I have problems too. Are you including me in your 20%? I've been in contact with 4 major dealerships in Oregon and not one single 6.0 has had major problems. They all do however have the smaller stuff that I and probably most everybody has. You need to lighten up. You appear to be from your writings like an angry person that is quick to attack. Do the math and stop sticking up for people that are criticizing the 6.0 that haven't even bought one yet.

 

Forgot to mention what he mentioned. I think I'll go visit a Volkswagen Beetle site since I DON'T OWN ONE and see if I can't pick a fight there. Go buy a 6.0 and get back to me. By the way your 7.3 is a fine motor. I have MANY friends with them. great work horse. You should see their eyes and I mean pop wide open when they hit the throttle. They all say the same thing.

 

You need to learn to read.

I was criticizing your fictition numbers, not the engine.

 

Oregonfordman,
It is useless to argue with this guy. Read the thread "6.0L is junk". He doesn't know anyone personally that has had a problem with the 6.0L, doesn't own one, nor has he driven one. All he knows about them is what he reads on the internet.

Same guy who tries to call Honda cars American made. Says they are not a foreign company. Some parts and maybe even a whole vehicle is made in America, I'll admit that, but when someone can't accept the fact that Honda is a Japanese company I think it is a waste of time to talk sense to them.

Jcshira,
Fire away.

 

I just want to state the reason for my first post. I did get a little ****** when someone said the 6.0 blows. Its a great motor that needs little help on a very little percent of the trucks built. Ya, i know the problems, i have had a few. And i still love my motor and truck. I would not give it up for anything. It does have a 100,000 mile warrenty doesn't it. And just for a little more of my point of very. I bought this truck expecting problems. I mean come on. lets be relistic everyone. Its a first year motor, there are going to be problems. You should have known that when you bought it. I am will to deal with that. Those of you who are not, should not have taken the chance. Personally, i would not go back to the 02 7.3 and 4 speed auto for anything.

 

Yeah you're right. Guy likes to argue though doesn't he? This whole time I thought he owned a 6.0. Unbelievable arrogance. Wonder if he has any advice for our military pilots on how to effectively modify an F-18. I see our rigs are pretty similar. Same paint etc.....but you have the 4.10 gears so you've got the manual trans. Any particular reason why you opted for the manual trans? Just curious. I bet that thing wants to pop a wheelie with those gears. I had 4.10's in my last Chev 3500 6.5 turbo dsl. Had no real power, but out of the hole you'd think it was chipped, but then it flattened out and that was all it ever had. Anyway good choice on the color. Really sharp looking truck. I get alot of compliments.

 

Agree! I've told a bunch of guys when they ask how my new rig is I usually say suffering from the first year blues but it's pretty awesome. I absolutely knew there would be issues. I didn't however expect what is going on. Meaning small stuff computer related. I expected something 60-100k down the road similar to the head problems that the 91 Explorers had. So if this is all and it gets fixed not really a bad intro. The guys with major problems???? Don't know how to put it into perspective. Once again how many people visit these sites first of all and how many people with no problems are looking for a site like these? Tough to say, but I think it makes sense that more than not people that visit them are either looking to buy or are looking for some answers. Kind of like customers. They don't exactly call back to say you did what they asked. They call when you didn't

 

Is that why this site has sooo many mebers? they are/were haveing problems But you say Ford is the Best. I came to these sites just to BS and be with guys that have the answer if something does go wrong.

 

I am here cause i got nothing better to do at night, i work to pay for my truck, and then go to bed.

 

"He doesn't know anyone personally that has had a problem with the 6.0L, doesn't own one, nor has he driven one. All he knows about them is what he reads on the internet."

SOOoo - you're saying that UNLESS a person actually HAS a new Ford, or has had first hand experience with a $40,000+ problem truck, he isn't entitled to a question, criticism or opinion?

I am not a concert pianist - but I recognize a sour note when I hear it - I'm not a baseball player, but I know the difference between a foul ball and a home run. To follow YOUR logic to its reasonable conclusion, if you've never been President, or a Senator or Congressman, YOU have NO right to a political criticism or opinion! If YOU haven't owned or operated a recent Dodge or GM, you have NO right to express a critical opinion on their transmissions or aluminum heads...

And for THAT matter, unless YOU have had some of the significant, major problems other Ford owners are going thru, YOU don't have any "right" to comment here either!

Is THAT the story and logic you wanna stick with?

*I* came here, 80% out of personal curiosity, and 20% because I have several Ford owning friends approaching time to replace their older vehicles, and I wanted to see what was going on - I didn't realize that the "price of admission" was that I had to actually OWN one of the new trucks before any comments or questions I had were to be considered "worthy" or valid...

Remember your "standard" next time YOU are tempted to knock a competing brand YOU don't have direct contact with...

I'm not trying to start anything here, or be a pain, but jeeze, ask a simple question or make an honest opinion contrary to the "company line", and you'd think you had spit on the Church floor or insulted the Pope...