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Old May 23, 2003 | 09:08 PM
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Biggest and Fastest?

No they didn't.

Anyways if you could afford a Saleen that would be the fastest mustang you could buy.

700th post, what a waste.
 
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Old May 24, 2003 | 01:53 PM
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You guys astound me every time. We have one of the greatest research tools ever invented at our finger tips, but you dont use it. ITS A 496.

Vortec 6000 6.0L V8 (LQ4) Vortec 8100 8.1L V8

(L18)

Duramax 6600 6.6L V8

(LB7)

Type: 6.0-liter V8 8.1-liter V8 6.6-liter V8

Displacement (cu in / cc): 366 / 5998 496 / 8128 403 / 6599

Bore & stroke (in / mm): 4 x 3.62 / 101.6 x 92 4.25 x 4.37 / 107.95 x 111 4.06 x 3.90 / 103 x 99

Block material: cast iron cast iron cast iron

Cylinder head material: cast aluminum cast iron cast aluminum

Valvetrain: OHV OHV OHV

Ignition system: coil near plug, platinum-

tipped spark plugs, lowresistance

spark plug wires

coil near plug, platinumtipped

spark plugs, lowresistance

spark plug

wires

compression, glow plug

start aid; platinum-tipped

spark plugs, lowresistance

spark plug

wires

Fuel delivery: sequential fuel injection sequential fuel injection direct injection diesel

with high pressure

common rail

Compression ratio: 9.4:1 9.1:1 17.5:1

Horsepower (hp / kw @ rpm): 300 / 224 @ 4400 340 / 254 @ 4200 (L18) 300 / 224 @ 3100

270 / 201 @ 3600

(MD L18 with LQY option)

210 / 157@ 3600

(MD L18 with LQQ option)

Torque (lb-ft / Nm @rpm): 360 / 488 @ 4000 455 / 617 @ 3200 (L18) 520 / 705 @ 1800

400 / 542 @ 1600

(MD L18 with LQY option)

325 / 441 @ 1200

(MD L18 with LQQ option)

Recommended fuel: 87 octane 87 octane Diesel

Maximum engine speed (rpm): manual: 5600 manual: 5000 3250

auto: 5600 auto: 4000
 
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Old May 25, 2003 | 12:59 PM
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Biggest and Fastest?

1. Dodge's 505
2. The Mosler Photon
And for the record, the Photon is nuts. Almost 3 second 0-60, and with no forced induction. Imagine if they supercharged that thing, it would run 9's. It's like ZO6 minus 1000 pounds.
 
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Old May 29, 2003 | 06:44 AM
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Biggest and Fastest?

I was reading Car and Drivers June issue. They have the what has to be the fastest production car listed in the magazine. It's the Bugati Veyron 16.4. The things is crazy fast. It has a 16 cylinder engine with four turbochargers (8.0 liter). The engine produces a prodigious 1001 hp and 987 ft-lbs torque. Top speed is posted as 250 mph. The all wheel drive monster is expected to break the 3.0 sec barrier for 0-60. It has gone 0 to 185 mph in 16.0 secs. no posted 1/4 mile time yet but if the thing can go to 185mph in 16.0 secs it's a pretty sure bet that it may break 10 seconds in the quarter.
 
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Old May 29, 2003 | 07:47 AM
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Biggest and Fastest?

Unless things have changed, the largest production car engine I'm aware of is 824 cubic inches (or 13.5 liters), which was used by Pierce-Arrow about 90 years ago. It was a 6-cylinder (w/pistons about as large around as coffee cans, 5" bore and 7" stroke), and only made something like 60 or 70 horsepower.

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Old May 29, 2003 | 07:57 AM
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Biggest and Fastest?

The most HP in a production car is the Mercedes AMG 65. It's
got a twin turbo 6.0L V-12, 615HP....
 
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Old May 29, 2003 | 10:29 AM
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Biggest and Fastest?

I agree with bigd. the bugattii Veryon has the most hp of any production car and I bet it is the quickest too. But back in 91 there was the Vector W8 which i think had a 0-60 time of 4.2 sec.
 

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Old May 29, 2003 | 10:37 AM
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Biggest and Fastest?

New info TVR Tuscan speed 12 800bhp 650lb-ft Got to google search for Fast autos.net
 
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Old May 29, 2003 | 10:44 AM
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Oh, just realized that I forgot to mention:

About the Roush mustangs, IOwnaBaseModel is correct - they made over 1,000 of them last year, and something like 100-200 of them were the Stage 3 (which is the supercharged, 360hp model). Those numbers are for the 2002 model year - I haven't seen specs on the '03s yet. I'm assuming Roush is coming up with something "new and improved", since the SVT Cobra is actually a bit faster. One of my co-workers used to work for Roush (they're here in Michigan, in Livonia) before coming to work for my current employer.

Saleen makes a range of models - the local dealer here sells them, and has two 281s on his lot right now. The 281 isn't all that fast - certainly not as fast as a Cobra, making something like 280hp. The faster Saleen, which used to be the 351 (not sure if it still is) is quite a bit quicker - IIRC, it's something like 500hp. However, it still runs the quarter in around 12 seconds. The SR is a little bit faster (maybe 11 seconds in the quarter) but is insanely expensive (last I heard, over $150,000) and so much has been changed that it's hardly a Mustang anymore.

I'm not sure that either the Saleen or Roush mustangs count as production vehicles, though - I don't think they meet the requirements. If they count, then the places that modify Vipers and 'vettes would too - and there are packages you can buy for the Viper that bring the quarter-mile time down below 10 seconds.

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Old May 29, 2003 | 10:57 AM
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LK, you need to go ask somebody, the new Cobra makes 390 HP. The Lightning makes 360 HP. That Saleen you are talking about is almost $500,000 and is totally awesome.

Now, it is not the biggest, but I believe it was the most powerfull:

Back in 1964 Ford made 400 Thunderbolts that were outfitted with the 427 SOHC (thats right, the "Cammer").
Advertised horsepower: 620
Actual Horsepower: way more than 700
Was the fastest thing on the track (1/4 mi.) in its day. One of the rags called it 'The scourge of the dragstrip". It sent Chebby running back to the drawing board.

By the way, the exotic sports cars are not considered production cars. A production car is for the masses. If you have enough money to buy an Exotic then you have enough money to buy 2. You can donate 1 to me. LOL

I thought you guys were Ford fans. This thread looks like a Chebby commercial.
 

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Old May 29, 2003 | 11:27 AM
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Originally posted by beefysbronco
LK, you need to go ask somebody, the new Cobra makes 390 HP. The Lightning makes 360 HP. That Saleen you are talking about is almost $500,000 and is totally awesome.
The Lightning is actually 380hp, and yes, the Cobra is rated at 390hp - but I never said it wasn't, so I'm not sure why you are telling me that.

BTW, from the dyno results I've seen it appears that the Cobra actually puts out more than 400hp and that Ford under-rated it a bit from the factory (which isn't a big surprise).

Edited to add: I re-read my post, and I think I see what you're talking about. In the paragraph about the Saleen, I mention the 281 and say that it has around 280hp (I don't know exactly) - I'm talking about the Saleen 281 there, not the Cobra. Basically, what I was trying to say was that the smaller Saleen only has 280-ish horsepower and isn't nearly as fast as the Cobra. My grammar isn't the best - I'm an engineer, not a writer.

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Old May 29, 2003 | 11:31 AM
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My Apologies LK, After rereading your post I see now what you are saying. At first it appeared that you were saying the Cobra only made 280 HP. I hate it when that happens.

I have seen in Muscle mustang and Fast Fords magazine that they put the Cobra on a chassis dyno and it dyno'd 412 at the rear wheels. That is pretty impressive.
 
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Old May 29, 2003 | 12:07 PM
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Originally posted by BobbyL
A herd stampedes and they all run off a cliff together. Does that mean they're right? 8.1 liters is 502 cubic inches. Nuf said end of story. Your bus was so short it only had 2 seats. One for the driver and one for you.

ROTFLMFAO!!!! How one can be so righteous and be so wrong will never cease to amaze me!!!! Like logical stated earlier, all the info is on the net.

The 502 (8.2L)was introduced around '89 and was based on the Bow Tie Mark IV block. The main advantage of the original 502 is it has siamesed cylinders for the larger bores necessary. The bore and stroke is 4.47X4.00 This is the motor I have in my boat.

The "new" 496(8.1L) has a completely different bore and stroke(4.25X4.37) and does not use the siamesed cylinders. And, of course, 502 is larger than 496.
 

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Old May 29, 2003 | 09:44 PM
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Originally posted by DOHCmarauder
ROTFLMFAO!!!! How one can be so righteous and be so wrong will never cease to amaze me!!!! Like logical stated earlier, all the info is on the net.

The 502 (8.2L)was introduced around '89 and was based on the Bow Tie Mark IV block. The main advantage of the original 502 is it has siamesed cylinders for the larger bores necessary. The bore and stroke is 4.47X4.00 This is the motor I have in my boat.

The "new" 496(8.1L) has a completely different bore and stroke(4.25X4.37) and does not use the siamesed cylinders. And, of course, 502 is larger than 496.



You know, I was thinking the same thing when he said that about me. I mean, if u type in liters to Ci it will bring you to a search full of calculators sayin the same thing......hmmm....
 
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Old May 29, 2003 | 10:18 PM
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I liter = 61.0237440949 ci . An exact calculation done by me. All manufacturers round their engine size to the nearest liter so to try and figure ci from their liter figure will always give an answer that is wrong. Not trying to start anything here.

On edit: Manufactures round their size to the nearest tenth of a liter. DUH! My bad. It's still inaccurate to try to figure ci from their posted liters
 

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