Well I been searching all day for a of 5speed 4x4 diesel tranny around where I live and I can only find 2wd ones so I think I'm going to go with one from a 4607 n just cit out the holes to fit...anyone here done that and have good results? Any help is appreciated

 

i think if you have a zf5 from a diesel that the tail housing comes off so that you can put a t-case on? but i am not sure

 

You have to swap the inner shaft and I'm not about to tear Ito a of lol

 

You couldn't be further from the truth.

The tail housing is the first thing you start with when building a ZF, and the last part left when disassembling it... The front of the housing/bellhousing comes off leaving the 2 shafts and the shift rails standing in the rear housing.

To make a 2wd ZF a 4x4, you need to change the mainshaft and the rear housing. Its not fun.

You can also get a 4x4 ZF from a 2wd F450/F-Superduty. They use a 4x4 ZF with a parking brake bolted where a transfer case would go.

Someone on here has pictures of the bolt holes and where you would have to drill. Its not really recommended and you could end up with a cracked housing if it doesn't hold up. Do a search and you'll be able to find the thread with pictures.

 

Are you sure the one with the parking break on it will work because I found on near here...that would be great lol.....I blew 3rd gear and 5th is on its way out

 

Found a Zf with the parking brake on it on Craigslist 2hours away ...guy wants $500 but I talked him down to $350..going to swap out the parking brake with my transfercase....picking it up tonight

 

It will be the wide range ZF with "granny" 1st gear (wish I had found one of those!)

 

I absolutely guarantee the parking brake tranny will work (as long as its off a diesel...).
Its what I used on my truck when I did the 4x4 swap. I'm not sure why people don't pick up on this as its been posted on here like 100 times....

Ford F834, I'm not so sure about the wide range thing... there are a couple versions of the ZF. The one I took apart that was from a F450 seemed to be the exact same gear ranges as the one from my F250. I had them both apart at one point to swap the case halves (one front case cracked ) and the gears were the same from both. So maybe, but not always.

 

Interesting. I read the F450's with the parking brake got granny gearing because they didn't have a split t case for a crawl gear option like the 4x4 trucks. I downloaded a PDF that listed specific part numbers and vehicle applications but it only covered thru 91 or 92 I believe. The tag on the side of the tranny should list the gear ratio, but it's good to know what you mentioned in case you are buying on assumption or traveling a great distance to buy one!

 

Well I got the Tranny back home and was checking it out on the tag it says its a s-42 and doesn't have a ford sign on the tag but their is a Zf remanufactured sticker on the top of the case....so was thinking at Zf they probably used a 4x4 s-42 rebuilt it and put the parking break on the back instead of a transfercase and sold it for the f-450's......just my thought but what a bitch getting that brake off, I beat the **** outta that thing for a half hour before it came off lol

 

I'm not really sure I understand what you're trying to say...

ZF is a German company that makes transmissions. Ford decided it was a good transmission to use as a replacement for the T-19 that was used on 6.9l engines. With a 5th (overdrive) speed it was probably meant to increase fuel mileage.
I can't remember whether or not there is a Ford sign on the ZF label, but I see no reason why there should be one. Ford did not make the transmission, like they did not make the engine (International Harvester/Navistar did).

I can't remember completely, but I believe that ZF also manufactured the parking brake unit used on the F450's. Those trucks used disc brakes on the rear axle, so needed an alternative to the traditional parking brake used with drum brakes. Driveline brakes were nothing new and are still used on lots of vehicles now.

ZF designed the rear case of the 4x4 transmission to bolt up to the transfer cases that Ford was using. They designed the parking brake unit to also bolt up because that means only making two rear case designs (2wd and 4x4/F450). The front case had 3 designs (diesel, 460, and small block) depending on the application.

I'm not sure why you had so much difficulty taking the brake unit off. Mine came off no problem. Perhaps there was some corrosion sticking yours in place.

 

if u live near me i know wheres theres on in a junk yard

 

The one that came outta These truck had a ford symbol on the id plate and my new one didn't so I figured when Zf remanufactured it they put a new plate on it...I just thought the zf's from a f450 were the s-47 but the one I got is a f-42

 

Well got her in took 2u days working by my self but not to bad. Took it down the road seems kinda loud but its been sitting a wile so probably take a few miles to get all lubed up lol