Ex will not start
I have not driven this truck since I bought it back in July, I got it for $2800 and it needed a lot of work, among those things the whole front end needed replacement parts ball joints well bearings knuckles, brakes calipers. Then I had to redo the whole exhaust there was not one nut on a header that a socket would fit so all had to be cut off. That by far was very frustrating, until the dipstick broke off at the oil pan that was even far worse. I am afraid to remove the bolts because every bolt I turn it snaps off even with heat, that brings me to the starter and the problem above, snapped off 2 nuts with that.
Anyways I had it running the other night and the next morning I pounded on one of the running boards to straighten it out and then hoped in to start it and nothing. I am at my wits end. A little guidance would be appreciated before I put a sledge hammer through this thing. With all the rust under this thing I probably knocked out something.
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On the no start - do you have interior lights when you open the door?
Ground wires? I had several that were rusted off and one happens to be very close to the running board. These caused all kinds of electrical issues.
</td> <td align="right"> 2000 F-Super Duty/Excursion/Motorhome Chassis Workshop Manual
</td></tr> <tr> <td> DIAGNOSIS AND TESTING
</td> <td align="right"> Procedure revision date: 11/07/2001
</td></tr></tbody></table> <hr> Starting System
Refer to Wiring Diagrams Cell 20 ( Excursion and F-Super Duty , F53 Motorhome ), Starting System for schematic and connector information.
<table border="1" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0" width="50%"> <caption>Special Tool(s) </caption> <tbody> <tr valign="top"> <td>
</td> <td valign="top">73III Automotive Meter 105-R0057 or equivalent </td></tr> <tr valign="top"> <td>
</td> <td valign="top">ARBST Battery and Electrical System Tester 010-00735 or equivalent </td></tr></tbody></table>
Inspection and Verification
- Verify the customer concern by operating the starting system.
- Visually inspect for obvious signs of mechanical and electrical damage; refer to the following chart.
<table border="1" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0"> <caption>Visual Inspection Chart </caption> <tbody> <tr> <th align="center" valign="bottom">Mechanical </th> <th align="center" valign="bottom">Electrical </th></tr> <tr> <td align="left" valign="top">
- Starter motor
- Starter motor solenoid
- Brackets
- Battery
- Open fuse
- Damaged wiring harness
- Loose or corroded connections
- If the concern is not visually evident, determine the symptom and proceed to the Symptom Chart.
Symptom Chart
<table rules="groups" border="1" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0" width="90%"> <caption>Symptom Chart </caption> <colgroup> </colgroup><colgroup> </colgroup><colgroup> </colgroup><tbody> <tr> <th>Condition </th> <th>Possible Sources </th> <th>Action </th></tr> </tbody><tbody></tbody> <tbody> <tr valign="top"> <td>
- The engine does not crank and the relay does click
- Battery.
- Fuse.
- Starter motor/solenoid.
- Ignition switch.
- Circuit.
- GO to Pinpoint Test A .
- The engine does not crank and the relay does not click
- Fuse.
- Battery.
- Starter relay.
- Ignition switch.
- Digital transmission range (TR) sensor.
- Starter solenoid.
- Clutch pedal position (CPP) switch.
- Circuit.
- GO to Pinpoint Test B .
- The engine cranks slowly
- Battery.
- Starter motor/solenoid.
- Circuit.
- GO to Pinpoint Test C .
- Unusual starter noise
- Starter mounting.
- Starter motor.
- Incorrect starter drive engagement.
- GO to Pinpoint Test D .
<table rules="groups" border="1" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0" width="96%"> <colgroup> </colgroup><colgroup> </colgroup><tbody> <tr> <th>CONDITIONS </th> <th>DETAILS/RESULTS/ACTIONS </th></tr></tbody> <tbody> <tr> <td colspan="2"> A1 CHECK THE VOLTAGE TO THE STARTER RELAY </td></tr></tbody> <tbody> <tr valign="top"> <td valign="top">


</td> <td valign="top">
Measure the voltage between the starter relay terminal and ground. </td></tr> <tr valign="top"> <td>
</td> <td>
- Is the voltage greater than 12.5 volts?
Yes GO to A2 .
No REPAIR the battery to starter relay cable. TEST the system for normal operation. </td></tr> </tbody><tbody> <tr> <td colspan="2"> A2 CHECK THE VOLTAGE TO THE STARTER MOTOR SOLENOID </td></tr></tbody> <tbody> <tr valign="top"> <td valign="top">


</td> <td valign="top">
Measure the voltage between the starter motor solenoid positive terminal and ground. </td></tr> <tr valign="top"> <td>
</td> <td>
- Is the voltage 12.5 volts or greater?
Yes GO to A3 .
No REPAIR the circuit between the battery and the starter solenoid. CLEAN and TIGHTEN the connections at the battery terminals. TEST the system for normal operation. </td></tr> </tbody><tbody> <tr> <td colspan="2"> A3 MANUALLY JUMP THE STARTER MOTOR </td></tr></tbody> <tbody> <tr valign="top"> <td valign="top">


</td> <td valign="top">
Connect one end of a fused (15A) jumper wire to the positive terminal of the battery and touch the other end to the starter solenoid S-terminal. </td></tr> <tr valign="top"> <td>
</td> <td>
- Does the starter solenoid engage?
Yes GO to A4 .
No INSTALL a new starter. TEST the system for normal operation. </td></tr> </tbody><tbody> <tr> <td colspan="2"> A4 CHECK THE STARTER MOTOR </td></tr></tbody> <tbody> <tr valign="top"> <td valign="top">


</td> <td valign="top">
NOTE: Starter will not engage ring gear unless S-terminal is powered. </td> <td>
- Does the starter motor spin?
Yes GO to A5 .
No INSTALL a new starter motor. TEST the system for normal operation. </td></tr> </tbody><tbody> <tr> <td colspan="2"> A5 CHECK THE CONTINUITY OF THE CIRCUIT </td></tr></tbody> <tbody> <tr valign="top"> <td valign="top">

Starter Motor/Starter Motor Solenoid Relay Switch </td> <td valign="top">
</td></tr> <tr valign="top"> <td valign="top">


</td> <td valign="top">
Measure the resistance between the starter relay to starter solenoid and the S-terminal. </td></tr> <tr valign="top"> <td>
</td> <td>
- Is the resistance less than 5 ohms?
Yes INSPECT for poor connections, if OK INSTALL a new starter relay. TEST the system for normal operation.
No INSTALL a new starter motor/starter relay harness. TEST the system for normal operation. </td></tr></tbody></table>
NOTE: Make all multimeter connections at the component terminal rather than the cable or wiring terminal.
A slow cranking condition can be caused by resistance in the ground or return portion of the cranking circuit. Check the voltage drop in the ground circuit as follows:
- Disconnect the ignition coil connector from the ignition coil.
- Connect a remote starter switch between the starter solenoid S-terminal and the battery positive (+) terminal.
- Connect the positive (+) lead of the 73III Automotive Meter to the starter motor housing. The connection must be clean and free of rust or grease. Connect the negative (-) lead to the negative (-) battery terminal.
- Engage the remote starter switch and read the voltage. The reading should be 0.2 volt or less.
- If the voltage drop is greater than 0.2 volt, clean the negative (-) battery cable connections at the battery and chassis. Also, clean the engine ground cable connection at the cable mounting bracket. If the voltage drop is still excessive, repair or install a new battery ground cable.
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