Ok...one of the things that bothered me was when the new 2013 trucks were put on the Frd website...they had all the payload and towing capacities pretty much the same. They finally pulled their heads out and changed the numbers especially for the higher end F150's (Limited is really limited to 9,300 lbs. towing )

So for this reason and because of the red interior of course I will be looking at the Platinum. The confusing part for me is how a bigger motor allows more payload?? The Ecoboost has the lowest payload in the platinum compared to the 5.0 and the 6.2. How so??

 

Regular Cab 4x2 126" 3.7L V6 6450 1710
Regular Cab 4x2 126" 5.0L V8 6650 1810
Regular Cab 4x2 145" 3.7L V6 6750 1930
Regular Cab 4x2 145" 5.0L V8 7050 2090
Regular Cab 4x2 145" 3.5L EcoBoost V6 7050 2060
Regular Cab 4x2 145" 5.0L V8 8200‡ 3120*/‡
Regular Cab 4x2 145" 3.5L EcoBoost V6 8200‡ 3100*/‡
SuperCab 4x2 145" 3.7L V6 6700 1600
SuperCab 4x2 145" 5.0L V8 7100 1870
SuperCab 4x2 145" 3.5L EcoBoost V6 7050 1790
SuperCab 4x2 145" 3.5L EcoBoost V6 7500* 2080*
SuperCab 4x2 145" 6.2L V8 7500 2010
SuperCab 4x2 163" 5.0L V8 8200‡ 2710‡
SuperCab 4x2 163" 5.0L V8 7300 1930
SuperCab 4x2 163" 3.5L EcoBoost V6 8200‡ 2700‡
SuperCab 4x2 163" 3.5L EcoBoost V6 7300 1920
SuperCab 4x2 163" 3.5L EcoBoost V6 7550* 1990*
SuperCrew 4x2 145" 3.7L V6 6800 1620
SuperCrew 4x2 145" 5.0L V8 7100 1790
SuperCrew 4x2 145" 3.5L EcoBoost V6 7100 1480†
SuperCrew 4x2 145" 3.5L EcoBoost V6 7100 1750
SuperCrew 4x2 145" 3.5L EcoBoost V6 7400* 1930*
SuperCrew 4x2 145" 6.2L V8 7400 1810
SuperCrew 4x2 157" 5.0L V8 7100 1700
SuperCrew 4x2 157" 5.0L V8 8200‡ 2620*/‡
SuperCrew 4x2 157" 3.5L EcoBoost V6 7100 1660
SuperCrew 4x2 157" 3.5L EcoBoost V6 7550* 2000*
SuperCrew 4x2 157" 6.2L V8 7550 1880
Regular Cab 4x4 126" 3.7L V6 6650 1670
Regular Cab 4x4 126" 5.0L V8 6800 1710
Regular Cab 4x4 145" 3.7L V6 6950 1900
Regular Cab 4x4 145" 5.0L V8 7250 2060
Regular Cab 4x4 145" 3.5L EcoBoost V6 7200 1920
Regular Cab 4x4 145" 5.0L V8 8200*/‡ 2810*/‡
Regular Cab 4x4 145" 3.5L EcoBoost V6 8200*/‡ 2810*/‡
SuperCab 4x4 133" 6.2L V8 7050** 980**
SuperCab 4x4 145" 3.7L V6 6900 1510
SuperCab 4x4 145" 5.0L V8 7350 1830
SuperCab 4x4 145" 3.5L EcoBoost V6 7200 1660
SuperCab 4x4 145" 3.5L EcoBoost V6 7700* 2000*
SuperCab 4x4 145" 6.2L V8 7700 1950
SuperCab 4x4 163" 5.0L V8 7450 1770
SuperCab 4x4 163" 5.0L V8 8200*/‡ 2400*/‡
SuperCab 4x4 163" 3.5L EcoBoost V6 7700* 1860*
SuperCab 4x4 163" 3.5L EcoBoost V6 7450 1780
SuperCab 4x4 163" 3.5L EcoBoost V6 8200*/‡ 2390*/‡
SuperCrew 4x4 145" 5.0L V8 7350 1700
SuperCrew 4x4 145" 3.5L EcoBoost V6 7200 1300†
SuperCrew 4x4 145" 3.5L EcoBoost V6 7200 1520
SuperCrew 4x4 145" 3.5L EcoBoost V6 7650* 1900*
SuperCrew 4x4 145" 6.2L V8 7700 1860
SuperCrew 4x4 145" 6.2L V8 7450** 1180**
SuperCrew 4x4 157" 5.0L V8 7350 1570
SuperCrew 4x4 157" 5.0L V8 8200*/‡ 2330*/‡
SuperCrew 4x4 157" 3.5L EcoBoost V6 7350 1560
SuperCrew 4x4 157" 3.5L EcoBoost V6 7700* 1840*
SuperCrew 4x4 157" 3.5L EcoBoost V6 8200*/‡ 2310*/‡
SuperCrew 4x4 157" 6.2L V8 7700 1730
*Requires Max. Trailer Tow Package
**SVT Raptor

Looks to me like the EB us running about 20 pounds less than the 5.0L as it is a little but heavier I believe.

 

Those are the numbers I am seeing Tim...and the ecoboost has more torque and horsepower than the 5.0 yet has a lower payload. The 6.2 is much higher.

 

It's hard to say as there are so many options, cab configurations, etc. It's well known that more options = less payload as every pound added to the truck is a pound that it can't haul.

On second thought, I wonder if some of these numbers reflect the differences between trucks with a 26 gallon tank and a 36 gallon tank.

 

All 4x4's to my knowledge from 2012 up are all 36 gallon tanks...but I see where you are going with this.

 

I thought payload was more axle and frame related - the engine will move the load, but the parts that support it may be overstressed. Thus, adding stuff like 4WD adds vehicle weight, and reduces payload capacity.

For towing, the rear end chosen can help the engine choice. Getting the load moving and stopping it (brakes) come into play. With the right rear end, the engine will be revving at a good point on its power curve while getting the load to move from a standing stop.

The sticker on the door column should list GVWR - Gross Vehicle Weight Rating. That's supposed to be the truck plus what it is hauling in the bed. If you load it so when you roll a scale you are over the GVWR (or if an axle is over its limit) you are overloaded. Add a trailer, and then the GCVWR - Gross Combined Vehicle Weight Rating - comes into play. I don't remember if that is on the door post, or if it was in the manual or some other place. Anyhow, it relates to the load in the truck plus the trailer. Again, remember axle weight limits also, as the trailer tongue weight will add to the rear axle load.

I used to tow a horse trailer with my F150 - the trailer plus horses was about 4000 pounds. I know the engine and transmission will move that load. But when I put a camper in the bed of the truck that was less than 3000 pounds, I was overloaded.

So now I have a 250 sitting near my 150. It will haul the camper better.

 

as an extreme example of how an engine can affect payload, look at the current SD line.

somewhat apples to oranges, but:

our survey crew's 2012 F250 XL CCSB 4x4 6.2(G) 10,000 GVW has a payload on the sticker in excess of 3,000lbs.

on of my contractor's 2012 F250 Lariat CCSB 4x4 6.7(D) 10,000 GVW only has a payload of about 1700 lbs.

your gvwr is "the limit" furthermore if you add your GFAWR and your GRAWR, that number will be in excess of your GVWR in most cases.

if an ecoboost engine weighs 20lbs more than the 5.0 .. then given the same GVWR, it can carry 20lbs less as limited by the GVWR.

 

This is what I meant as you can see they are all 4x4 with 3.73 gearing and 5.5' box. The only thing changing is the motor...I am willing to bet the 6.2 weighs more than the Ecoboost 3.5!

 

I think you're correct on the added weight of a full fuel tank. Another factor could be that a few of the factory tuning parameters could be a little different from year to year to benefit fuel economy.

 

This very issue seemed to be a tough nut to crack when the 2009's first hit the showrooms. Abnormally low payload numbers were confusing everyone.

 

the difference lies in the GVWR

SuperCrew 4x4 145" 5.0L V8 7350 1700
SuperCrew 4x4 145" 3.5L EcoBoost V6 7200 1300†
SuperCrew 4x4 145" 3.5L EcoBoost V6 7200 1520
SuperCrew 4x4 145" 3.5L EcoBoost V6 7650* 1900*
SuperCrew 4x4 145" 6.2L V8 7700 1860
SuperCrew 4x4 145" 6.2L V8 7450** 1180**

The 6.2 has the highest GVWR @ 7700lbs, which minus the dead weight gives a max payload of 1860

the ecoboost without max tow has the lowest GVWR @ 7200lbs, giving it only 1520lbs left after the dead weight.

if the ecoboost had a GVWR of 7700lbs, its payload would be 2020lbs without max tow ... can't have that, or we cant sell the 6.2. even the max tow ecoboost only gets a GVWR of 7650

sorry, my cynic sneaked out ... but that's what's going on. they are manipulating GVWR to satisfy the needs of the people and the marketing dept.

 

Towing and carrying capacity is decided by drivetrain, suspension, and chassis components. In this case, suspension components are identical thruout the line (except for HD Pkg.). Frames are all the same, and all trucks use the same trannies and rear axle housings (again, except HD Pkg.).
The main difference is the rear axle gearing. That is where you see real differences in tow capacities. Load capacities are determined by spring and axle capacities.

 

That's one thing I never understood. I work with a guy with the exact same truck(2010 FX4 5.4) except he has a 6.5 bed and max tow package. I have a 5.5 bed and an upgraded tow package but not max tow. Yet he can haul 600lbs more in the bed and tow 1600lbs more. But from what I can tell the only thing I'm missing from the "max tow" package is the extra foot bed, tow mirrors and upgraded bumper.

 

I forgot the wheelbase aspect. It seems that trucks with a longer wheelbase, but otherwise identical, can tow more. I'm guessing that is because the weight on the hitch is less liable to "unload" the front end with a longer truck due to the increased leverage caused by the front end being farther away from the rear on the longer truck.
I THINK I'm on track with this....

 

don't forget our 3.7L V6 brethren ... they get the venerable 8.8" ford rear. all others get the same axle, with the HD getting the upgraded springs.



Max Tow gives a slight bump in GVWR, which explains the additional 600lbs of cargo capacity. the bump in GVWR is needed in order for the truck to be able to handle the additional tounge weight of an 11,000 lbs trailer. Generally, though, it is not enough extra capacity to handle a 5'er, which is why Max Tow is available on a CCSB.

the ONLY trucks that have a chance at handling a 11,000lbs 5'er are the Max Payload trucks. In order to get the Max Payload package you need the Long Box (LB) version of whatever cab style you choose.

Realistically, the only 1/2 ton's that can haul an 11k 5'er without being overloaded is a Reg Cab LB. by the time you put any amout of gear in your truck, plus your family, you are usually over your cargo capacity on the Super and Crew cab pickups.