Who has done an E85 conversion?
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Not too mention many E85 pumps are disappearing as rapidily as anything. Northern Colorado had several stations switch pumps to E85. Now we have like 3 in the whole area.
Plus the fact that 85 octane is about $3.60 and E85 is about $3.25.
Makes no sense to use it.
For race use it can be good with 14:1+ compression.
Josh
Plus the fact that 85 octane is about $3.60 and E85 is about $3.25.
Makes no sense to use it.
For race use it can be good with 14:1+ compression.
Josh
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Well let's see, it burns cleaner ( fewer emissions ) , it burns cooler ( less detonation, pinging ) , it loves high compression or boost and it's cheaper then 87 octane gas.
I'm setting my 54 project up to run E85. It's getting a supercharged 300 6cyl.
If you want to run E85 and take full advantage of it. You really need to bump up the compression ( or add boost to it ) .
I'm setting my 54 project up to run E85. It's getting a supercharged 300 6cyl.
If you want to run E85 and take full advantage of it. You really need to bump up the compression ( or add boost to it ) .
In other words like i said before,you spend all that money to make all the changes just so you can say your old truck will run on E85 ? You just forget the cost it took to get it there i guess huh ? Buy a lot a regular fuel with that i would think.
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I'll get to say I'm running a performance engine without having to spend the big $$$$$ to run high octane gas!!
And considering I'm starting from scratch on my whole fuel system it doesn't really cost much if any more to buy alcohol compatible parts.
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Now back to the fuel , i believe most people wanting to change over are thinking of saving fuel and the cost. What you want to do is play with it and that's fine as long as it's not costing me to subsidies the fuel. So go ahead a laugh , when the cost of food and ability to get it gets out of hand, at least your truck won't be hungry. Yeh ,meant to be
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Ok, what ever makes you happy it's your money. I'm mainly against any Government subsidies that go in to growing fuel ' food' for automobiles on land humans need for food, that is my money. I don't want to depend on mexico food.
Now back to the fuel , i believe most people wanting to change over are thinking of saving fuel and the cost. What you want to do is play with it and that's fine as long as it's not costing me to subsidies the fuel. So go ahead a laugh , when the cost of food and ability to get it gets out of hand, at least your truck won't be hungry. Yeh ,meant to be
Now back to the fuel , i believe most people wanting to change over are thinking of saving fuel and the cost. What you want to do is play with it and that's fine as long as it's not costing me to subsidies the fuel. So go ahead a laugh , when the cost of food and ability to get it gets out of hand, at least your truck won't be hungry. Yeh ,meant to be
At least some of that money goes to the farmers!And it's made with feed corn. The byproduct goes back to the farms as animal feed. So it's feeding the cattle I get my milk and beef from!
So unless you are a vegetarian, get over it!! If you want to get into politics I think you are on the wrong forum. This forum is suppose to be about trucks not politics.
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The "subsidies" are no different then the big tax breaks and other loop holes W and the rest of the republicans gave the big oil companies to help pad their pockets. At least some of that money goes to the farmers!
And it's made with feed corn. The byproduct goes back to the farms as animal feed. So it's feeding the cattle I get my milk and beef from! So unless you are a vegetarian, get over it!!
If you want to get into politics I think you are on the wrong forum. This forum is suppose to be about trucks not politics.
At least some of that money goes to the farmers!And it's made with feed corn. The byproduct goes back to the farms as animal feed. So it's feeding the cattle I get my milk and beef from!
So unless you are a vegetarian, get over it!! If you want to get into politics I think you are on the wrong forum. This forum is suppose to be about trucks not politics.
I just ask what it was and you started telling me a long story all about farming ,i am a farmer , ha ha .
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I was just waiting to tell you to take it some place else not this forum.
I just ask what it was and you started telling me a long story all about farming ,i am a farmer , ha ha .
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I just ask what it was and you started telling me a long story all about farming ,i am a farmer , ha ha .
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I did an independent study for half a semester on ethanol. Wastes valuable water, less power=less efficiency, bad for world food supply, etc.
Anywho, I think the 650 would be a little small. I've seen people running 750's on 460's, I feel like for you you should prolly go with an 800 because you'll be jetting up so much. I think it'd just be a pain in the dupa trying to get that 650 to run, you'd end up running like 100 jets and doing other crazy things.
IMHO a better route is the Quick Fuel ethanol carbs. Someone on here is running one, I can't remember who but their truck is blue.
Anywho, I think the 650 would be a little small. I've seen people running 750's on 460's, I feel like for you you should prolly go with an 800 because you'll be jetting up so much. I think it'd just be a pain in the dupa trying to get that 650 to run, you'd end up running like 100 jets and doing other crazy things.
IMHO a better route is the Quick Fuel ethanol carbs. Someone on here is running one, I can't remember who but their truck is blue.
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I can't believe my little topic sparked so much debate. It much simplier for me though.
In my Dad's 2005 K1500 if the difference if price is more than $ .50 then E85 is worth it
My buddy Brad, uses E85 do to his tune needing high octane and says similar things about price/mpg otherwise.
I'm sure the tank lines need replaced anyways, and the 650 needs rebuild also. I would assume that the difference in MPG dropping from E85 would almost be offset by switching to a smaller carb.
Now I'm just going to have to decide if that 650 will be enough. Hopefully someone else can chime in with personal experience.
In my Dad's 2005 K1500 if the difference if price is more than $ .50 then E85 is worth it
My buddy Brad, uses E85 do to his tune needing high octane and says similar things about price/mpg otherwise.
I'm sure the tank lines need replaced anyways, and the 650 needs rebuild also. I would assume that the difference in MPG dropping from E85 would almost be offset by switching to a smaller carb.
Now I'm just going to have to decide if that 650 will be enough. Hopefully someone else can chime in with personal experience.
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Anywho, I think the 650 would be a little small. I've seen people running 750's on 460's, I feel like for you you should prolly go with an 800 because you'll be jetting up so much. I think it'd just be a pain in the dupa trying to get that 650 to run, you'd end up running like 100 jets and doing other crazy things.
and the statement about gas pumps disappearing, I live in the middle of corn country, I doubt they are leaving here anytime soon.
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Huh, well that's good then! I was just thinking about fuel injected engines, injector pulse width gets larger with E85 so I figured you'd have to jet up.
Good luck to ya then! Just make sure you use the ethabol rebuilding kit and compatible hoses. Also, make sure your fuel pump is compatible with E85. And you should be able to advance timing somewhat cos E85 burns slower
Good luck to ya then! Just make sure you use the ethabol rebuilding kit and compatible hoses. Also, make sure your fuel pump is compatible with E85. And you should be able to advance timing somewhat cos E85 burns slower
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yup, all planned if I can find a decent kit. If it's a lot more money, I'll just continue to use regular gas, stock carb rebuild and replace the lines do to age and today's fuels.