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Old Oct 18, 2012 | 03:42 PM
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Removing the engine - what is easier?

351W in a 92 F150 with E40D. Is it easier to remove the 6 tranny to engine bolts and only remove the motor or should I remove the motor and tranny attached? I have a 2 ton hoist. I only need to remove the motor but those tranny to engine bolts can be a pain.
 
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Old Oct 18, 2012 | 08:05 PM
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The whole assembly is easier to do. However, I think either way you will have to remove the radiator, rad support, front clip, etc to open it up and have enough clearance. But it is easier with everything, only heavier and doesnt sit as level as an engine alone.
 
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Old Oct 18, 2012 | 08:12 PM
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I left my tranny (same engine/tranny combo as you) in place on my 96'. It was a couple years ago, but I don't recall any serious difficulty.
 
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Old Oct 18, 2012 | 09:26 PM
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The engine alone will come out without removing the rad or even the hood if you keep the hoist chain short.. have done it several times, but I don't see the engine and trans coming out as a pair without removing the front clip so there's no way that method is "easier".
 
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Old Oct 18, 2012 | 09:38 PM
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Just the engine. No need to take out more than necessary.

As for the top 2 trans bolts, That is what they make a 24" extension and a swivel for
 
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Old Oct 18, 2012 | 09:48 PM
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The engine alone will come out without removing the rad or even the hood if you keep the hoist chain short.. have done it several times, but I don't see the engine and trans coming out as a pair without removing the front clip so there's no way that method is "easier".
I took the hood off and rad out when I did my swap. I had plenty of room. I'd just have a hard time risking a radiator to save 5min though. I have to agree on the whole "removing front-clip" being harder, but I bet if one jacked the truck up some, and took the hood off, you could pull the tranny out with the engine if you used an overhead hoist instead of a cherry picker.

OP, don't forget the 6(I think) bolts on the flywheel for the torque converter.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2012 | 02:47 AM
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I've never had an issue getting the motor out by itself and leaving everything (hood, radiator, fenders, ect) in place.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2012 | 09:43 AM
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Hmmmm...it's just a pain leaving in the tranny because those bolts are hard to get to and lining up the torque converter when reinstalling but sounds like the thing to do
 
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Old Oct 19, 2012 | 09:47 AM
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Hmmmm...it's just a pain leaving in the tranny because those bolts are hard to get to and lining up the torque converter when reinstalling but sounds like the thing to do
No, its not. Like I said, long extension and swivel. Have the 2 top bolts out in 2 min. As for the TC bolts, you shove the TC ALL THE WAY IN to the pump, then when the engine is in place you slide it forward 1" and put the studs thru the flex plate
 
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Old Oct 19, 2012 | 12:33 PM
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Connecting an auto trans to the engine is a piece of cake compared to doing the manual version, if you had that combo then I'd have to change my vote.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2012 | 12:58 PM
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My opinion:

Leave the transmission in the truck. Cut a hole in the hump of your floor board to get to the top 2 tranny bolts.

I would take off the hood. I would also take out the radiator. Why risk hitting the radiator unless you are about to buy a new one anyway. To me, removing the radiator only adds 10 mins. Also nice having the hood out of the way and risk damaging the hood (unlikely I know)
 
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Old Oct 19, 2012 | 01:52 PM
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I had the same question a few months back and ultimately decided to pull just the engine. And that's with the longer I6 engine and M5OD gearbox, so you should have it easier. I was mostly concerned with getting the two mated back together, but I had no real issues there. Getting the bellhousing bolts out was no big deal - as suggested, a long extension did the trick for the ones up top.

I did remove the hood and radiator. Removing the crank and water pump pulleys helps too but probably wouldn't be needed on a V8.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2012 | 03:34 PM
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Leave the Trans in. A couple of extension and a swivel make this rather easy.

Get one of those precut 2'x2' thin plywood from HomeDepot and zip tie it to the fan side of your radiator.
 
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Old Oct 20, 2012 | 12:44 PM
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The engine alone will come out without removing the rad or even the hood if you keep the hoist chain short.. have done it several times, but I don't see the engine and trans coming out as a pair without removing the front clip so there's no way that method is "easier".
What's the front clip? I can't figure out what this is.
 
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Old Oct 20, 2012 | 12:47 PM
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My opinion:

Leave the transmission in the truck. Cut a hole in the hump of your floor board to get to the top 2 tranny bolts.

I would take off the hood. I would also take out the radiator. Why risk hitting the radiator unless you are about to buy a new one anyway. To me, removing the radiator only adds 10 mins. Also nice having the hood out of the way and risk damaging the hood (unlikely I know)
I'm going to get the 24" extension as Diesel_Brad said but this idea is interesting. I have a tin plate in the cab where a manual shifter would go. I wonder if I can remove that and get to the bolts easier. I'm gonna try.
 
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