I have posted on the Excursion board also but wanted some input from you guys. See my sig for vehicle details. I have done extensive reading on tires and I have it narrowed down to the BFG Rugged Terrain T/A and the BFG All Terrain T/A KO. I just stopped by a local tire shop and I'm more torn than ever. I sure like the look of the KO and it's proven reliability. The Rugged Terrain is also a very good tire with great reviews. It's not quite as aggressive but I think would do better with hydroplaning. I understand it does pretty good in snow too which is a big concern being in the midwest. Road noise is also a concern, think the KO would have a bit more but from what I've read, it's not too bad. My use will primarily be on road, maybe occasional off-road on vacation etc.

So what do you guys think, Rugged terrain T/A or All Terrain T/A KO. I just can't make a decision. If you read reviews of just the Super Duty, they are both very good. Just don't know that I need the KO, but after looking at the two side by side, they sure are nice. The Rugged Terrain is very nice as well and has a 50k warranty. BTW, I will be going with the 285s rather than the stock 265s. I need help!

Thanks,
Steve

 

Just my opinion but the AT KO's are heads and shoulders above the Rugged Terrain. I have run both and did not find the Rugged T's very (any) good in snow, ice or even wet grass. They may last a bit longer and are less expensive than the AT's but that is the only plus I can see when comparing the two. Again, just my opinion.

 

For that type of use, I think you would like the Rugged Terrain. The T/A KO are more aggressive than you need, not to mention a lot more money. I think you will also find a better selection of LR-E sizes in the Rugged Terrain. I've got about 10k miles on these on my truck, and I'm very happy with them. Haven't seen any snow though. We don't get that here.

 

Just double checking, are you sure you ran Rugged Terrain? Because they've only been out for about a year and a half. So if you ran them, you changed pretty fast. Previously there was Rugged Trail, which was the OEM tire, and quite a different animal.

 

You caught me not paying attention!!!! Yes I was thinking Rugged Trail, not the new Rugged Terrain...hence my less that glowing review of the crummy OEM tires.

 

BFG A/T KO without a second thought. The Rugged Terrain tires lack siping and small grooves which help traction in all weather conditions. BFG dropped the ball big time with both the Rugged Trail and Rugged Terrain IMO.

 

BFG AT KO. I have them on my excursion and I have 10k miles on them. So far the tread is still like new. They have some road noise but that's expected. I have driven them through basically a 12 inch deep sewer clay we run our derby cars. Never got stuck!

 

I vote the AT/KO. We run them on three of our four trucks.

-Mark

 

I just replaced the rears with Rugged Terrains a few weeks ago. They only have about 200 miles on them so far but I like how they maintain a quiet ride. The look pretty good too:

 

sounds to me for the use you describe, the rugged terrain would be the way to go. The TA's are an off road tire, they may be superior in snow, but winter highways are not the type of snow they shine in. once the plow has gone by the RG's are probably a better tire. and regardless of what the "truck looking tire" crowd tells you the TA's are not long lasting tires compared to the RG's. I have run the TA's and now run FC II's, but put stock tires on for summer use as the all terrains wear too fast on hot pavement. JMHO

 

The Rugged Terrain is a good looking tire IMO. These are mine:


It appears to me that BFG has reduced the prices on the T/A KO recently. I recall that it was about a $300 tire in my 18" size, but now they are $211. And the Rugged Terrain is $195. So not really as much difference in price as I thought. Not enough to be a factor.

Still, I don't believe your intended use needs the T/A KO. But it is a good looking tire.

Keep in mind that the 285/70-16E T/A KO is "Not Rated For Severe Snow". Just that particular size. I'm really not sure why. That info comes from tirerack.com.

 

Had the rugged trail ta rwl on my 2004 f 250 they have 73000.00 miles on them and still had 3/16 of a inch left. I JUST replaced them with the all terrain to ko . I originally wanted same rugged trail ( not available in my size anymore ) so I thought rugged terraine but liked the aggresivness of the all terrain better. The rugged terrain is clasified as highway all season the all terraine to ko is clasified on/off road ,Speed is better on all terrain weight is the same no mileage warrt. on all terraine, 50000.00 mile warrt. on rugged terraine. Actually both tires are not rated ( snow rated ) for snow figure that out. I can feel the difference of the all terraine vs the older all season rugged trail the ones the rugged terraine replaced. I went with the no mileage one cause I wanted better traction in winter weather which the all terraine will do. Ride is good no road sound that I can tell. MAN I LUV THE LOOK OF THE ALL TERRAINE TO KO ROWL bolder fatter white letters. Stuck with b f goodrich cause original has 73000.00 on them . Happy with the all terraine from Tread depot on line.

 

TA KO we have them on our 86 F150 4x4 no problems 33000 mile minimal wear and never been roated yet. Not to mention they don't sing at all when money comes up getting some for our 2002 Ford F250 4x4.
Trav

 

So far, 15k on the KOs with minimal wear. Mud and snow traction vastly improved over the stock BFG Rugged Trails. Ice traction seems a little better, but last winter was so mild it was hard to really tell.

Down side? They are a little noisy and pick up rocks like crazy.

 

well we have had 31 10.50 R15s on our 86 F150 For 3 years and mud and snow it does great in.
Trav