Peculiar Issue - Need advice
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Some good points....But....
From what I've read there are a few codes can't be cleared even by a dealer, only by the PCM ciircuit that set the code. Others are cleared by the PCM after x amount of following tests, starts, idle time, speed, drive cycles, etc. Wrench codes are different than SEL/CEL codes and need a high end scanner to read.
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If possible I would swap vehicles with the daughter. Drive hers until it throws the code and loses power. Leave it running or key on and have it towed into the dealer. If they get on it right away they should be able to read it and take the appropriate action.
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Good idea
That is actually a good idea. Last night she was coming home from her friends (10PM), and it did it again, but she really wanted to get home because she has to get up early for school and she was about 15 minutes away, so she called me to let me know that the truck did "it" again, and she was just going to cycle the key to get herself home. She did, and this morning I started to think that I will just take her car for a while to see if I can capture the issue. I have a code reader so I can just pull over and plug in myself. Crazy how all of a sudden it starts doing this.
If I knew what code would represent the throttle body, I might just take it in to Ford and tell them this is the code I saw. It sounds like more than likely this is the issue.
We shall see. I think me driving it for a while is the answer. Love that she has some girlie stickers on the back window. Can't wait to hear the crap from the guys at work.
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Problem getting worse. Good thing!
Well, the kid had the same issue occur last night and again this morning, but of course I wasn't around. Now she calls me and the same issue, but now the Check Engine light is on and won't go out. Maybe this is the final answer.
Since I have the warranty on it, I am taking the truck to the bigger dealership, which is on my way to work. I have email the service manager, who tells me he hasn't heard of this issue before, but assures me they will find a fix or not release the vehicle. We shall see. Dropping it off in the AM.
Wish me luck!
Since I have the warranty on it, I am taking the truck to the bigger dealership, which is on my way to work. I have email the service manager, who tells me he hasn't heard of this issue before, but assures me they will find a fix or not release the vehicle. We shall see. Dropping it off in the AM.
Wish me luck!
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Code read....
Well, I managed to get home in time to snag a code off the truck. This was for the Check Engine light, not the wrench light. I went ahead and snapped a picture of this to show the dealer.
The Code read:
P2112 Mod$00
TAC System
Stuck Closed.
I went ahead and reset it, because it seemed to keep the vehicle from running. I now have the truck in my possession, so I will keep the code reader with me to see if I can read anything when the wrench comes on. Hopefully, before the dealer visit tomorrow.
The Code read:
P2112 Mod$00
TAC System
Stuck Closed.
I went ahead and reset it, because it seemed to keep the vehicle from running. I now have the truck in my possession, so I will keep the code reader with me to see if I can read anything when the wrench comes on. Hopefully, before the dealer visit tomorrow.
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My 2005 Expedition had a very similar probelm. Once I was drving down the interstate and it just lost all power. I think the engine was still running, but it would not move. I cut it off, let it sit, and when I restarted it was fine . Another time on the same weekend it did the same thing in a mall parking lot. I did a lot of research on this website and I found that the most likely scenario was to replace the throttle position sensor (TPS). I don't think it ever through a code. I replaced the TPS about 6 months later, and while I was at it I removed the throttle and cleaned out all the carbon. The problem has not returned. It also fixed a minor surge that used to occur when in cruise control, and the throttle response is much smoother at low speeds.
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My 2005 Expedition had a very similar probelm. Once I was drving down the interstate and it just lost all power. I think the engine was still running, but it would not move. I cut it off, let it sit, and when I restarted it was fine . Another time on the same weekend it did the same thing in a mall parking lot. I did a lot of research on this website and I found that the most likely scenario was to replace the throttle position sensor (TPS). I don't think it ever through a code. I replaced the TPS about 6 months later, and while I was at it I removed the throttle and cleaned out all the carbon. The problem has not returned. It also fixed a minor surge that used to occur when in cruise control, and the throttle response is much smoother at low speeds.
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Resolution....
Well, I dropped off our Escape to the dealer here in San Jose (Frontier), and I got a call back after about 2 hours saying that the truck was fixed. They went ahead and replaced the throttle body under warranty (Power Train). I walked in with a picture of the code off my reader and apparently that was enough for them to swap out the unit.
Fingers crossed this is a closed deal.
Thanks for all of your help and direction guys!!
J
Fingers crossed this is a closed deal.
Thanks for all of your help and direction guys!!
J
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Well, the kid has had the car for a week now, and no issues to report. She even took it on a 90 mile drive yesterday and reported no issues.
Thanks for all of your directions guys! Very helpful!!!
Thanks for all of your directions guys! Very helpful!!!
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I am having the same issue with my escape however with 78,000 miles on it the warranty is null and void. I am very handy and have always done my own repairs so I would like to try to repair it myself however when I went to my parts store they told me the truck doesn't have a throttle body. Maybe it would be referred to as something else does anyone have any suggestions?
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