7.3 service tools
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7.3 service tools
I am a huge tool buff and have a massive amount of snap on tools. It appears the general service set snap on use to offer for the international/navistar engines is discontinued.
What tools should I be looking for if I want to do any service on my truck in the future? Snap on part numbers are great
I have the axle socket for the front diff but thats about the only specialty tool to this truck that I have
What tools should I be looking for if I want to do any service on my truck in the future? Snap on part numbers are great
I have the axle socket for the front diff but thats about the only specialty tool to this truck that I have
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While I wouldn't call any of these "specialty" tools, a metric crowsfoot set makes the removal of the turbo (collector bolts) and fuel filter stand pipe (remember it is REVERSE threaded) easier. I think the crow's foot you need is the 15mm but someone else should be able to confirm that. 1 1/4 box end wrench is handy for the Banjo bolt on the fuel pump, but it can be gotten with a shallow 1 1/4" socket and the right combination of adapters, extensions and a swivel head ratchet too.
Other than that, the biggest "specialty" tool you need for these trucks is a good scanner that will communicate with our PSD drivetrain. Most cheapo scanners won't do it. Auto Enginuity (requires that you have a laptop) or an Aeroforce Scangauge (that can stay in the truck if you want it to) are by far the most popular in this regard.
Other than that, the biggest "specialty" tool you need for these trucks is a good scanner that will communicate with our PSD drivetrain. Most cheapo scanners won't do it. Auto Enginuity (requires that you have a laptop) or an Aeroforce Scangauge (that can stay in the truck if you want it to) are by far the most popular in this regard.
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my dad has a mac mentor updated through 2011, is there anything we can do with it on the diesel diagnostic port?
any kind of data streaming or reading temps and such?
any special sockets for taking the injectors out?
would it be worth investing in a pulser for my timing light?
any kind of data streaming or reading temps and such?
any special sockets for taking the injectors out?
would it be worth investing in a pulser for my timing light?
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From: Ashland City, TN
my dad has a mac mentor updated through 2011, is there anything we can do with it on the diesel diagnostic port?
any kind of data streaming or reading temps and such?
any special sockets for taking the injectors out?
would it be worth investing in a pulser for my timing light?
any kind of data streaming or reading temps and such?
any special sockets for taking the injectors out?
would it be worth investing in a pulser for my timing light?
So most readers dont read them.
No special socket
No need for timing light.
only around 15-18 different data streams to be read. I have a forum thread somewhere around here with them listed.
With the AE, there are more to be read, but they are specialty stuff you don't need much to know while going down the road.
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Actually, it's closer to OBD-II than OBD-I. OBD-I just had two-digit DTCs, which is why you could read them with CEL blink sequences. Our trucks' codes are the Pxxxx codes, more like the standard OBD-II. But yeah, the takeaway is, a standard OBD-II scanner won't read them. I have gotten standard OBD-II scanners to read real rudimentary data, like speed and RPM.
You do need a special adapter to span those way deep passages that the glow plugs mount in, to hook up a compression tester. There are threads out there on how to build one with off-the-shelf fittings.
Oh, a big torx (T50? T30?) for the tensioner, but that's not really "specialty" these days.
Wha'bout the fan clutch? I know it's a bigeffin' nut like most, but it's an unusual size, no? And unlike many, IIRC, it's NOT reverse threaded (because the water pump runs on the backward-turning smooth pulley).
You do need a special adapter to span those way deep passages that the glow plugs mount in, to hook up a compression tester. There are threads out there on how to build one with off-the-shelf fittings.
Oh, a big torx (T50? T30?) for the tensioner, but that's not really "specialty" these days.
Wha'bout the fan clutch? I know it's a bigeffin' nut like most, but it's an unusual size, no? And unlike many, IIRC, it's NOT reverse threaded (because the water pump runs on the backward-turning smooth pulley).
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If you like Snap On equipment, the Snap On Solus works awesome, even on our trucks. I've used a Solus a lot along with the Ford IDS. If I had the money, those are awesome tools, but I don't have the money so I have to use the scan gauge in my truck and I use Auto Enginuity for other peoples trucks.
While AE (Auto Enginuity) does work in our trucks, I've found that a lot of times I have to really fight to get it to connect with our trucks. It works great every time on SDs, but sometimes it doesn't want to connect to OBSs and I have to jack with it.
While AE (Auto Enginuity) does work in our trucks, I've found that a lot of times I have to really fight to get it to connect with our trucks. It works great every time on SDs, but sometimes it doesn't want to connect to OBSs and I have to jack with it.
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If you like Snap On equipment, the Snap On Solus works awesome, even on our trucks. I've used a Solus a lot along with the Ford IDS. If I had the money, those are awesome tools, but I don't have the money so I have to use the scan gauge in my truck and I use Auto Enginuity for other peoples trucks.
While AE (Auto Enginuity) does work in our trucks, I've found that a lot of times I have to really fight to get it to connect with our trucks. It works great every time on SDs, but sometimes it doesn't want to connect to OBSs and I have to jack with it.
While AE (Auto Enginuity) does work in our trucks, I've found that a lot of times I have to really fight to get it to connect with our trucks. It works great every time on SDs, but sometimes it doesn't want to connect to OBSs and I have to jack with it.
I think somebody couldn't get a scanner to work on it so they tried re-pinning the connector and just left it as is.
He was having some issues and I wanted to pull codes for him. We had to resort to pull this and give it a drive tests.
Which wasn't a bad excuse, he was out of beer. haha.
I have no experience with AE, but I can think of many computer side reasons you have issues.
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Actually, it's closer to OBD-II than OBD-I. OBD-I just had two-digit DTCs, which is why you could read them with CEL blink sequences. Our trucks' codes are the Pxxxx codes, more like the standard OBD-II. But yeah, the takeaway is, a standard OBD-II scanner won't read them. I have gotten standard OBD-II scanners to read real rudimentary data, like speed and RPM.
You do need a special adapter to span those way deep passages that the glow plugs mount in, to hook up a compression tester. There are threads out there on how to build one with off-the-shelf fittings.
Oh, a big torx (T50? T30?) for the tensioner, but that's not really "specialty" these days.
Wha'bout the fan clutch? I know it's a bigeffin' nut like most, but it's an unusual size, no? And unlike many, IIRC, it's NOT reverse threaded (because the water pump runs on the backward-turning smooth pulley).
You do need a special adapter to span those way deep passages that the glow plugs mount in, to hook up a compression tester. There are threads out there on how to build one with off-the-shelf fittings.
Oh, a big torx (T50? T30?) for the tensioner, but that's not really "specialty" these days.
Wha'bout the fan clutch? I know it's a bigeffin' nut like most, but it's an unusual size, no? And unlike many, IIRC, it's NOT reverse threaded (because the water pump runs on the backward-turning smooth pulley).
Where you been?
Anyways, yeah, he's right on the OBD stuff. I claim its more of OBD1 than 2, but either way.
I claim OBD1 because we have a simple sensor system as opposed to most OBD2 style systems that have a mess of sensors and readings everywhere.
Looking at the scanable area's on our computers vs the OBD2 SD's is far far different.
The Cornwell scan tool should scan it as well as the SnapOn scanner that Travis Mentioned.
But not standard scanners will unless its designed for our trucks.
As for the Water Pump wrench, I never thought of that one.
I'm glad I dont have it on mine anymore.
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From: Celaya, Gto. MX
While I wouldn't call any of these "specialty" tools, a metric crowsfoot set makes the removal of the turbo (collector bolts) and fuel filter stand pipe (remember it is REVERSE threaded) easier. I think the crow's foot you need is the 15mm but someone else should be able to confirm that. 1 1/4 box end wrench is handy for the Banjo bolt on the fuel pump, but it can be gotten with a shallow 1 1/4" socket and the right combination of adapters, extensions and a swivel head ratchet too.
Other than that, the biggest "specialty" tool you need for these trucks is a good scanner that will communicate with our PSD drivetrain. Most cheapo scanners won't do it. Auto Enginuity (requires that you have a laptop) or an Aeroforce Scangauge (that can stay in the truck if you want it to) are by far the most popular in this regard.
Other than that, the biggest "specialty" tool you need for these trucks is a good scanner that will communicate with our PSD drivetrain. Most cheapo scanners won't do it. Auto Enginuity (requires that you have a laptop) or an Aeroforce Scangauge (that can stay in the truck if you want it to) are by far the most popular in this regard.
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How's that workin' out? Do you notice the A/C output warming up when you're sitting at lights, etc?
As for the Water Pump wrench, I never thought of that one.
I'm glad I dont have it on mine anymore.
I'm glad I dont have it on mine anymore.
Post Fiend
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From: Orrville, Ohio
An air chisel works great for removing the fan clutch; then you don't need the big funny wrench for it. Just get a blunt tip on one of the flats of the nut, give it a couple short blasts in the right direction and is spins right off.
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Plus, the computer also works great to reburn the chip and datalog on my F-150.