Heavy compared to?

I currently run Toyo 37" MT's which are heavy.

 

And on wet grass. Nothing like needing 4wd just to get off the lawn at Carlisle right Jim?

 

I'm not sure how they compare to others but I might be able to weigh one for you

I forgot about that peter

 

Seen many sets of these in my 19 years in the military. Complete junk, there is a reason why they switched to the MT/Rs. traction sux, balancing them sux. but you gotta do what you gotta do. Plus 16.5s are so rare anymore.

 

Really hate when people dont know what they have...

They were OBS 8 lug.

Oh well.

 

I run the Goodyear military surplus tires on my diesel Excursion, and am actually thinking/planning to switch the other way i.e. from the military surplus tires to the Toyo Open Country MTs, which are rated at 4300 lbs each in my desired 17 x 13.5 x 37 size,

I only got about 10,000 miles out of my last set of >90% tread hand-selected military surplus take offs. Granted, I'm not easy on my tires; I have done a bunch of offroading, spirited jaunts down fire roads, trips on broken B roads down in Baja, drifting on the street etc. on them, but 10,000 miles isn't a lot when you consider the hassle of getting them, mounting & balancing etc.

If you do decide to go ahead & get them, as mentioned above, definitely check the date code on them. Some may be as much as 10 years old, and most tire shops won't mount tires older than 6 years old for liability reasons. Also, older tires, depending on how they've been stored (preferably inside, in a cool area), may no longer have the same durometer rating. If you have the opportunity to hand select the take offs, it's worth taking the time to do so, to see which have the best tread, minimal uneven wear, no damaged beads etc.

Also, it can be pretty difficult to get them mounted. My local tire shop failed miserably, and in the end I had to go to a heavy duty truck tire shop. They had to use special tire mounting lube that looks like lard, strap around the circumference of the tire, and shoot the air into them using a special tank-based air gun mounting tool to get the beads to seat. And even then they struggled a bit to get them mounted. But they did get them mounted, and each wheel balanced with less than or equal to 20 oz of standard pound-on weights on the inside of the wheel, and they run fine at highway speeds with minimal bounce or vibration.

In the end, for me, whether you spend $100 per tire that lasts 10,000 miles, or $400 per tire that lasts 40,000 miles, it works out about the same cost wise, but in more frequent less costly intervals. I've only recently put on my 2nd set of military surplus takeoffs, so I'll be monitoring to see how much mileage I get out of them, and make a decision whether to switch or stay with them based on that, but at the moment I'm leaning towards picking up a set of 17' rims, and getting the Toyo 17 x 13.5 x 37 MTs. Or possibly BFG ATs in a similar size.

One advantage of using tires that are super cheap in comparison is that it's more affordable to have a couple of spares on hand in case one gets damaged or for longer offroad trips or expeditions.

 

I've been seriously considering getting this setup for a while. Once you get the wheels tires are 75 each! I've heard they are heavy for their size and wear quickly.

Also, someone mentioned that they are only load rating D....load rating is relative to tire size so a load rating d for a 37 inch tire is not the same as a load d 32 inch tire.

I just don't see how you can go wrong with 75 dollar 37 inch tires, unless they destroy the truck.

Here's my most recent temptation
http://boston.craigslist.org/sob/pts/3298602765.html

 

Ah, tires. one of the next things I can throw money at on this rig.....

I'll have to say I absolutely hate my Terra Grapplers right now.....maybe it is the width (305s) but man these things suck donkey ***** in the snow. I have seen skis with more traction in snow than these....turns me into an 8000lb sled....

Next tires will probably some 285 variant but trying to keep the same height as my 305s. I also need something in the E load rating for towing and these are Ds and even at 63psi (max is 65) they feel a little squishy with the horse loaded and gear.

 

Anyone think I could pull off a set of 38's???

Yokohama Geolandar M/T Plus

Price is cheaper then the Toyo's...

Anyone have any experance with them?

 

Looks like they are range "C" if that matters to ya. I'm suprised your getting away with 37s and only 4" of lift.

Another tire you might look into is the Cooper Discoverer STT. Similar tread pattern to your Toyos, but less expensive...

 

I have heard several people say terra graplers are slick and have no.traction. I do.t know if they don't know how to drive or if mine are studded but I pull a trailer I have the snow.and ice every year and have no problems. I even drive around yanking other people out. The snow here is nothing like other places but the ice gets nasty. Guess I'm glad I can be happy with my nittos.

 

Junk.....and a directional tire.

I have run Super Swampers, Pro Comp, Mickey Thompson, Dick Cepek, Dunlop, Goodyear, and every single BFG tire. I have the same Toyo's you have. 37 x 17's......the MT's can't be beat. Save your cash and get the same ones you have, unless you're just bored. Obviously.....I get bored occasionally, I don't plan on "experimenting" anymore, the Toyo's are the best I've found. All this tire use is spread thru the life of 3 different 7.3's that I've owned.

 

Joe, if you were willing to give those old military tires a shot, you need to take a look at these. I'm about to buy a set...albeit much smaller size than you are looking at. I have several friends that have been running them for a long time and swear by them. Lots of reviews online. American company out of South Dakota and family run.

Treadwright.com

37x12.50R16.5 GUARD DOG M/T

Guard Dog (formerly MTG): The Guard Dog is an On/Off-Road Maximum Traction tire developed to meet the needs of pickup truck and sport utility vehicle drivers who desire the looks and performance associated with rugged, off-road driving. Guard Dog Combines a uniform center lug pattern for better wear with a wider and more open outer lug pattern for maximum off-road traction.

Tread Depth:
19/32”

Meas. Rim Width:
10”
Tread Width:
10”

Rim Width Range:
8.25-10.5”
Max Load:
3,850 lbs

Outer Diameter:
36.7”
Max PSI:
50 psi

Section Width:
12.2”

Price: $205.00

 

How is the road noise on the toyos? I love MT's but most are loud.

 

Its not a money issue per say, I am always looking to save some money.

I am a huge fan of the Toyo MT, I have run them for 8 years or more now, a new set on each rig every 18 months to 2 years.

But as I said before, with three kids and the single earner the cost is something to think about...

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I've kicked around those as well... But the millitary tires are so cheap, and if I can find a set of wheels cheap as well its worth the risk in case it just doesnt work.

No issues with road noise on the Toyo's... Be it new or worn out...