Walmart Supertech ATF
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Personally, I wouldnt use ATF in a manual transmission. Yes, i know Ford specifies it, but I think for the convenience of dealers and the factory so they can throw in whatever Mercon they are using to service 95% of the cars and trucks that have automatics. It works, but not the best. If I had no other choice, pick the Type F ATF, because it gets along better with sychros than Mercon/Dexron.
GM and Chrysler specify sychromesh fluids, such as Pennzoil, which may be available at ChinaMart, and certainly any chain auto parts store. I use Redline MTL in ZF and Getrag transmissions.
GM and Chrysler specify sychromesh fluids, such as Pennzoil, which may be available at ChinaMart, and certainly any chain auto parts store. I use Redline MTL in ZF and Getrag transmissions.
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You should check out - Bob is the Oil Guy. He has a TON of info about any kind of automotive lubricant you could ever want.
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Personally, I wouldnt use ATF in a manual transmission. Yes, i know Ford specifies it, but I think for the convenience of dealers and the factory so they can throw in whatever Mercon they are using to service 95% of the cars and trucks that have automatics. It works, but not the best. If I had no other choice, pick the Type F ATF, because it gets along better with sychros than Mercon/Dexron.
GM and Chrysler specify sychromesh fluids, such as Pennzoil, which may be available at ChinaMart, and certainly any chain auto parts store. I use Redline MTL in ZF and Getrag transmissions.
GM and Chrysler specify sychromesh fluids, such as Pennzoil, which may be available at ChinaMart, and certainly any chain auto parts store. I use Redline MTL in ZF and Getrag transmissions.
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While "Wally-World" oil is made by a major refinery, I prefer to use name brand so I know exactly what I am getting including any additives...... In regards to trans oil, both in sticks and autos I have always used Valvoline. I have also never had a trans failure in any vehicle I own and typically keep my vehicles for 10+ years, with over 100k on the odometer
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While "Wally-World" oil is made by a major refinery, I prefer to use name brand so I know exactly what I am getting including any additives...... In regards to trans oil, both in sticks and autos I have always used Valvoline. I have also never had a trans failure in any vehicle I own and typically keep my vehicles for 10+ years, with over 100k on the odometer
Never have figured out why I haven't used it in so many years. I guess we just drifted apart. LOL..I'll have to look at it again...
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Your owners manual should give you the answer your looking for. Believe me if it calls for ATF don't use gear oil. I saw a a guy do that & about 200 miles & his transmission was burned up. because gear was too thick even motor oil is too thick. doesn't circulate some have oil pumps in the tranny only ATF will work
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Your owners manual should give you the answer your looking for. Believe me if it calls for ATF don't use gear oil. I saw a a guy do that & about 200 miles & his transmission was burned up. because gear was too thick even motor oil is too thick. doesn't circulate some have oil pumps in the tranny only ATF will work
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I agree with you on the gear oil in a tranny or x-fer case when ATF is called for. I do think tho that Redline MTF and only Redline MTF won't hurt a zf tranny due to it's nature, but I still will use ATF. I just hate to purchase synthetic when a good ol regular Mercon grade will do and is what's called for, for my truck.
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IIRC WPP makes most of Wally World's ATF and I beleive makes either Advanced or Auto Zone's ATF.
Either way both look like they did we in this test...
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I have Super Tech Dex/Merc with two bottles of lubegard in my 4r100 and it has done fine over the last 30k. Heck, I even ran it in the 48re of my old dodge without any of the predicted destruction Dodge people told me I would have.
Either way both look like they did we in this test...
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I have Super Tech Dex/Merc with two bottles of lubegard in my 4r100 and it has done fine over the last 30k. Heck, I even ran it in the 48re of my old dodge without any of the predicted destruction Dodge people told me I would have.
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Your owners manual should give you the answer your looking for. Believe me if it calls for ATF don't use gear oil. I saw a a guy do that & about 200 miles & his transmission was burned up. because gear was too thick even motor oil is too thick. doesn't circulate some have oil pumps in the tranny only ATF will work
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Synchomesh fluids are not API GL-5 SAE 90 or 140 hypoid oils. That type of gear oil has sulphur additives that eventually corrode brass or bronze parts found in some manual transmissions. ATF and the above mentioned fluids have similar viscosity to 5W-20 motor oil.
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