96 460 ecm/pcm
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96 460 ecm/pcm
I have a 96 f250 w/ the 460. the truck was orinigally from cali
the ecm/pcm went out and im having problems find the correct one
the guy that works on my truck called a guy her knew at a dealership and ran a nationwide search and found none. just needing to know if anyone knew where i could get one?
do the pcm have to be a california emmisson one?
im lost.
part number: f6tf-12a650-amd
the ecm/pcm went out and im having problems find the correct one
the guy that works on my truck called a guy her knew at a dealership and ran a nationwide search and found none. just needing to know if anyone knew where i could get one?
do the pcm have to be a california emmisson one?
im lost.
part number: f6tf-12a650-amd
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Umm, dumb question but have you called the parts store.
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I have a 96 f250 w/ the 460. the truck was orinigally from cali
the ecm/pcm went out and im having problems find the correct one
the guy that works on my truck called a guy her knew at a dealership and ran a nationwide search and found none. just needing to know if anyone knew where i could get one?
do the pcm have to be a california emmisson one?
im lost.
part number: f6tf-12a650-amd
the ecm/pcm went out and im having problems find the correct one
the guy that works on my truck called a guy her knew at a dealership and ran a nationwide search and found none. just needing to know if anyone knew where i could get one?
do the pcm have to be a california emmisson one?
im lost.
part number: f6tf-12a650-amd
There are codes like A9L or A9P, and I think there may be 4 letter codes as well but that's what you need to match.
Notice on this page the part number then the 'other part number'. The other number is the strategy you need to match up - F6TF-12A650-KE F150 Bronco ECM 5.0 1996 ECU VEE4 | eBay
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Being a California truck and a 460, it may be mass air, which may be harder to find.
No other ecu can be used because a 302 mass air ecu just won't work. If he had a 351 it would probably be just fine but 460 is just too many cubes and injectors are bigger, I'm sure it wouldn't be happy if he used that ecu on it.
Call the parts stores and ask.
Also let us know if it's mass air or not.
No other ecu can be used because a 302 mass air ecu just won't work. If he had a 351 it would probably be just fine but 460 is just too many cubes and injectors are bigger, I'm sure it wouldn't be happy if he used that ecu on it.
Call the parts stores and ask.
Also let us know if it's mass air or not.
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Here is one for sale:
1996 FORD F250 PICKUP ECU
When you search for it do not use the center numbers. All computer have the same center numbers so most places drop them on the net.
Just search for "F6TF-AMD".
1996 FORD F250 PICKUP ECU
When you search for it do not use the center numbers. All computer have the same center numbers so most places drop them on the net.
Just search for "F6TF-AMD".
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thanks for all the responses. i was out of town all weekend.
it wasnt the mass air, it was the actual computer. Now the guy had called every parts store, they dont have it.
so we have one from a different truck that he is going to try to re program has anyone heard of doing that? what kind of problems would i run into if we were to do that?
it wasnt the mass air, it was the actual computer. Now the guy had called every parts store, they dont have it.
so we have one from a different truck that he is going to try to re program has anyone heard of doing that? what kind of problems would i run into if we were to do that?
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thanks for all the responses. i was out of town all weekend.
it wasnt the mass air, it was the actual computer. Now the guy had called every parts store, they dont have it.
so we have one from a different truck that he is going to try to re program has anyone heard of doing that? what kind of problems would i run into if we were to do that?
it wasnt the mass air, it was the actual computer. Now the guy had called every parts store, they dont have it.
so we have one from a different truck that he is going to try to re program has anyone heard of doing that? what kind of problems would i run into if we were to do that?
I wouldn't say I have heard of this (might be possible) but I see most people just end up modifying the existing and not trying to reprogram the whole thing.
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It would not make any difference what program the computer is running if the computer hardware is not the same.
You would have to have all of the parts inside the computer at the same address as the program that is running and also you have to have all of the same pins in the plug and hooked to parts inside that are at the same address or wired to the right pin of another chip for it to work right.
There should be a hardware code on the plug of the computer saying what hardware it has and what hardware arrangement it has.
An example of a hardware code would be "EFI-SD20B".
You would have to have all of the parts inside the computer at the same address as the program that is running and also you have to have all of the same pins in the plug and hooked to parts inside that are at the same address or wired to the right pin of another chip for it to work right.
There should be a hardware code on the plug of the computer saying what hardware it has and what hardware arrangement it has.
An example of a hardware code would be "EFI-SD20B".
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It would not make any difference what program the computer is running if the computer hardware is not the same.
You would have to have all of the parts inside the computer at the same address as the program that is running and also you have to have all of the same pins in the plug and hooked to parts inside that are at the same address or wired to the right pin of another chip for it to work right.
There should be a hardware code on the plug of the computer saying what hardware it has and what hardware arrangement it has.
An example of a hardware code would be "EFI-SD20B".
You would have to have all of the parts inside the computer at the same address as the program that is running and also you have to have all of the same pins in the plug and hooked to parts inside that are at the same address or wired to the right pin of another chip for it to work right.
There should be a hardware code on the plug of the computer saying what hardware it has and what hardware arrangement it has.
An example of a hardware code would be "EFI-SD20B".
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Unless the guy has some ford equipment or some chip burning equipment, then he's gonna fail at "reprogramming" it.
I wasn't trying to imply that it was the mass air, I was asking if the truck was a mass air truck, because you can't put a speed density computer in place of a mass air computer, no matter how you try to reprogram it.
If your truck is mass air, then you could potentially use a mass air 302 computer.
But if your truck is sd, then nearly any sd computer can be used ( not a 300-6) if reprogrammed.
I wasn't trying to imply that it was the mass air, I was asking if the truck was a mass air truck, because you can't put a speed density computer in place of a mass air computer, no matter how you try to reprogram it.
If your truck is mass air, then you could potentially use a mass air 302 computer.
But if your truck is sd, then nearly any sd computer can be used ( not a 300-6) if reprogrammed.
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can you post some pics of any letters or markings from your computer? I'd hate, in any way, to insinuate that a mechanic doesn't know what he is doing *cough* but I bet the guys here can help out pretty quick.
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OBD-1 PCMs are not reprogrammable for all intents and purposes, technically it is possible but not with any tools your average mechanic would have and not without some very specific knowledge and electronics equipment. It's also very likely that your truck is MAF and it could even be OBD-2, and given that it doesn't appear that your mechanic knows any of this I think we need to go back to the top here and ask.. how exactly has it been determined that your PCM is indeed dead?
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Going back to the first post.
From the number you posted "F6TF-12A650-AMD".
This is an OBD-II computer and it fits a MASS truck.
I am not an expert on OBD-II systems but I have heard that they can be reprogramed at the Ford dealer.
I do not know if this is the whole program or just the look-up tables they change.
I also do not know what truck you are getting the computer from.
I also do not know if all OBD-II computer have the same insides and pin-outs. This was never the case with the OBD-I computers.
If everyone of the OBD-II computers are identical hardware wise both in pin-out and hardware inside and they can replace the whole program along with the tables then yes that computer you have found will work.
From the number you posted "F6TF-12A650-AMD".
This is an OBD-II computer and it fits a MASS truck.
I am not an expert on OBD-II systems but I have heard that they can be reprogramed at the Ford dealer.
I do not know if this is the whole program or just the look-up tables they change.
I also do not know what truck you are getting the computer from.
I also do not know if all OBD-II computer have the same insides and pin-outs. This was never the case with the OBD-I computers.
If everyone of the OBD-II computers are identical hardware wise both in pin-out and hardware inside and they can replace the whole program along with the tables then yes that computer you have found will work.
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